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Re: FTX used corporate funds to purchase employee homes, new filing shows

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Do they actually exchange them for money or are they just creating them? There has never been a reputable audit of Tether.

Tether's 'market cap' is like 60 billion or whatever, I think most of that was just created out of thin air, but I think some of it was exchanged for real dollars, like a few percent, maybe a couple of billion dollars. In which case, when the fraud comes crashing down, they will have stolen hundreds of millions, to maybe a couple of billion dollars. Imagine if somebody stole a piece of art worth hundreds of millions…

They did handle several billion in redemptions without any hiccups when Luna collapsed.

But then again, everyone knows that if Tether blows up, every single crypto entity collapses. If Tether had a hole of a few billion, other entities might have stepped in.

Will they do so again? Hard to tell.

Regardless, Tether is a ticking time bomb.

It would be a fantastic business if they did indeed have all that money. 70B in depsoits. Even in safe short-term t-bills, that's a crap load of risk-free interest income for basically doing nothing.

Re: FTX used corporate funds to purchase employee homes, new filing shows

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The Enron scandal would have been much more interesting if their CEO had tweeted through it.

same creative use of mark to market accounting but compared to FTX, Enron was fraud on difficult mode. They had to (attempt to) actually build things like power plants in India. FTX just yeeted tokens to bag holders based on fancy darkmode graphic design and a screwball haircut.

> Enron was fraud on difficult mode.

The citizens of California would highly disagree with that. In those cases, all they had to do was put plants into "maintenance" mode. Literally, do nothing, and profit.

This doesn't even begin to cover how they encouraged their employees to put their retirement into the business.

Enron wasn't one fraud.. it was several.

Re: FTX used corporate funds to purchase employee homes, new filing shows

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What's interesting is how little scrutiny was applied to FTX and they're the one who lost people's money. Tether has been under intense scrutiny for years and is still working just fine. No one has lost their money in Tether despite huge outflow events. There's a lesson in here.

FTX is younger than Tether and it was actually subject to scrutiny. Tether has also been subject to scrutiny and was found, at the time, to be lying about their reserves and backing. And this was before they printed a lot more! It doesn’t make sense to write them off as having withstood the test of time when they literally failed to stand up to the first legal scrutiny that got access to their books.

> FTX is younger than Tether and it was actually subject to scrutiny.

What due diligence did Blackrock and SoftBank did before investing in FTX?

Half the people I know trusted FTX just because "Blackrock and SoftBank must have done their homework".

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The guy who says regulations are dumb has no idea what he spent his money on or even how many employees he has. This guy is almost worse than Elizabeth Holmes.

He was saying the opposite, one of the biggest supporters of regulation in the space, and reportedly had several one on one conversations with Gary Gensler of the SEC and was the second largest donor to Joe Biden

He’s pro crypto regulation (keep competitors out of his space), and fuck any regulation that might reveal his massive fraud.

Re: FTX used corporate funds to purchase employee homes, new filing shows

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> but a16z's $350M investment in Adam Neumann's newest Thing makes me think that we are still flush with money ready to be thrown at anyone that has the connections to get a coffee chat in Sand Hill Road. They have loose morals. Kevin O'Leary, of Dragon's Den fame, who is now a creditor in the FTX bankruptcy (ie wiped out) recently said in an interview that he would invest with SBF again. The guy literally had money…

Tim Draper still supports Elizabeth Holmes: https://fortune.com/2022/01/05/venture-capital-tim-draper-el... I don't know how. Maybe he's just fucking stupid, or too prideful to admit he was wrong.

I'm not entirely familiar with Theranos, but as far as I know, she only defrauded VCs - entities that are designed to take on risk (which can include Theranos-like fraud).

FTX defrauded average people, many of whom were lured by the big name ads, the friendships with Tom Brady, the marquee investors list.

Supporting that is deeply immoral.

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I mean, I don't see how it could've been losing money. Even if it had less users surely the fees they take more than make-up for the costs the exchange itself has.

They were paying out guaranteed 15% returns "with no risk" to investors. Basically a textbook Ponzi scheme pitch and yet again it worked. https://www.theblock.co/post/186187/alameda-promised-high-re...

Again, that's the Alameda arm, I'm talking about the exchange.

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>Armanino LLP, Oh look, the same one that "audits" Kraken.

You're scaring me. I have some money on Kraken. Guess it's time to remove.

You have to be smoking some harsh shit to be letting any exchange hang out with your money longer than the minimum amount of time possible. It's only reason is to exchange worthless crypto for cash into your bank account.

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I have a feeling he will come out worse that Elizabeth Holmes because it feels like a complete fraud and pilfering of their client's money for their own spoils. While Elizabeth ran a known fraud she didn't quite pilfer the money to completely enrich themselves like the FTX crew did.

And what will change because of this? Not much, the (VC) grift continues. People don’t want to accept that the VC model works while there’s a qualitative change in technology, which worked in the 2010’s and there hasn’t been any in a while. Maybe the new AI generative models bring something new

Oh it seems that people accepted that and thought Blockchain is the new technology and here we are...
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