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Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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Find a coding partner to share everything 50/50. Keep one another accountable to get MVPs out. Gage feedback, if you don't think it will work sell it on a saas reseller service and move on to the next idea. Having a solid partner is key, I've struggled find solid coding partners because they lose interest. They like their 9 - 5 programming job and don't care about coding after work. Easy way to get started is to look…

Looking for a coding partner. ;)

contact me

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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I think you'll find there is more work in freelancing than you think. The trick is to charge a market rate for your time (which is usually higher than most people think) and work a lot when there is work so when work slows down, you can survive financially. You can do very well if you build a good reputation for yourself. I'd be happy to offer more advice if you're interested. You can reach me at buink.com.

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Building and selling macOS apps is a pretty good niche to be in right now. I escaped my stressful corporate job 1 year ago and I’ve been living comfortably since then from app revenue only. I’m making between $3.5k and $9k per month with https://lunar.fyi/ and the smaller apps I create at https://lowtechguys.com/ It’s not much for some parts of the world. But I’m well enough from this that I even took the time to bui…

Pretty cool, congrats! Can you recommend learning material about developing macOS apps with SwiftUI?

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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Building and selling macOS apps is a pretty good niche to be in right now. I escaped my stressful corporate job 1 year ago and I’ve been living comfortably since then from app revenue only. I’m making between $3.5k and $9k per month with https://lunar.fyi/ and the smaller apps I create at https://lowtechguys.com/ It’s not much for some parts of the world. But I’m well enough from this that I even took the time to bui…

How do you market your apps, and how much time and money do you spend marketing and advertising them?

If conventional wisdom is to be believed, it seems like the difference between building an okay app and a great app doesn't matter that much, because success depends on investing the vast majority of the effort into marketing. That's a big deterrent for me — I'm much more interested in building awesome things than hawking them.

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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I see you sell apps directly and from the AppStore. What do you think about mac AppStore? The word in the street is that it's not growing and users aren't using it and developers are hating it because it lacks [INSERT FEATURE]. Is that right?

I love the App Store product and what it offers, what I don’t like is the bureaucracy that grew around it. Because Lunar uses lots of private and reverse engineered APIs, it isn’t allowed on the App Store, so I had to replicate a lot of the distribution myself: - payments and refunds - license activation - anti cracking measures - automatic (and rolling) updates - making a website for the app - SEO (the App Store is…

Can you not publish the app with limited functionality and/or ads for free and make the full version an in-app purchase?

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Coding pairs well and elevates many other side-hustles, I think. Nearly every job can benefits from automation, and if it can't, then the logical thinking that coding requires will improve it in some way. I paired coding with fiction writing and made a scifi podcast, which now represents 10% of my monthly income after two years! I wrote up my experience and advice here, if you're interested in the details https://www…

More recently (March of this year) I also started to teach what I can about coding on my YouTube channel ( https://www.youtube.com/c/NoBoilerplate ) Which has seen enormous positive feedback - and youtube ads are very fair (50/50 split between you and Google), and you don't have to chase the money, it's all handled for you! Another 10% of my monthly income comes from YT, I'd guess. The key with a youtube channel is t…

You're the best! I was in the middle of a six-month internship that only let me use C when I found your channel.

Up until that point, I was having a really hard time and thinking about dropping out of my software engineering degree because I just thought there has to be a better way to work on low level stuff.

And then I found your videos about Rust and I feel so much better about the future! I feel like I know way more now about what I want to look for in a company before I apply.

Thank you! (Literally made my first HN account to post this)

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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> I can code up my dream ideas with ease, what i don't know how to do is market anything or get users. That is the key. If you learn marketing strategies, you will be able validate ideas, grow a customer base, test what works and doesn’t.

What's the best way to learn marketing?

Not sure what the best way is. Here's the very basics of digital marketing:

* build something great

* build a list of people interested in that thing

* Keep them engaged by giving them value

* occasionally ask them to buy stuff

And the rest is implementation details.

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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I have tried, and failed, and tried, and failed, to maintain interest in full time office-based positions. I just can't. I've never held a FTE position longer than 3 years. I'm nearing 40, by the way. I use my skills, such as they are, in contract positions. I've been working continuously since 15 or so and aside from a brief spell of 4 months, never been out of work. When I became experienced/qualified enough to use…

I've never contracted, but I'm in the exact same boat with regards to being someone else's full-time employee. Lately I've been struggling to stay even one year—I've been with 4 companies over the past 4 years! I'm a "flight risk". :) And it's not that I don't want to work. I put 3-4 hours per weeknight into side projects, and another 8-12 hours on weekends. I have yet to make money on the side, but I keep hoping tha…

Perhaps you feel like you're chained in when you're working for an employer - I feel like it's a gilded cage. Yes, there's healthcare benefits, dental cover, bonus if I'm lucky, that kind of thing but at the end of the day I'm owned. My time is owned, my attention is owned and although I can pull the red cord and quit it's essentially bondage. Quitting becomes harder to do when you have a mortgage and kids, too. So you put up with it, and make yourself miserable, or put up with the misery.

But start working for yourself and all that goes away. You have CONTROL back - you dictate what you do, i.e. what you find interesting. Of course, the difficulty is making enough money to live, and finding that balance. I can't make money from side projects, I'm not that talented, but I can make money picking and choosing the projects that suit my interests and contracting is a happy medium.

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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I was experimenting in Binance Spot.I don't believe it out-performs the market, but it can survive when market crashes since the bot is not greedy. The bot opens up to 20 positions in parallel each starts with 2$ and always limit order with 0.5% profit. Some positions close itself in few seconds some remain for a day. If there is -5% loss on a position, I added up the amount of the position and re-order limit order w…

This is called "picking up pennies in front of a steamroller". You will make your $1 for many, many days, then the day comes where you continue doubling down and you lose a substantial amount of capital in the process. Very similar to systematically trading options, i.e. selling covered calls, ... See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martingale_(betting_system) Source (FWIW, but it really isn't needed for this cas…

My reply will not meant to convince you because I agree with you :-)

> "The day comes where you continue doubling down and you lose a substantial amount of capital in the process."

- I believe that continue doubling is one of the most fatal stratetegy. Sadly, I made this mistake multiple times, which caused me a extensive loss. The only solution I come up is, while continuing doubling, cut loss if there is a certain amount loss reached (like 10$ or 1% of the capital). That was the actualy reason I implemented the bot where it automatically closes the position for me; since in a loss , "fear" does not let me realize what's happening and instead of a cut loss I adding more into a losing trade.

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