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Shallow Learning Curve?

Except everyone currently understands that to mean the opposite of what it means.

Just because everyone understands "literally" to mean "not literally", that doesn't make everyone right.

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How can you say "there is no evidence" using your own definition people I've met many times throughout life meet that criteria belonging to the military, religions of all stripes, CMU students

Because I said there is no evidence that MKUltra brainwashed people. You've met people in the military, CMU students and religions of all stripes who were subject to MKUltra and had their minds controlled?

Fair enough, didn't read closely enough

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> (3) Autism epidemic. How breathtakingly insulting to the 100,000s of parents and caregivers of autistic children over the past 30 years, who have sacrificed 1,000s of hours, $MM of lost revenue, their own health, their own goals, and even attention that could have been paid to their other children and their community, exerting heroic efforts and sparing no expense to reach into a single child's mind to teach him or…

I have autism and only discovered it two years ago at age 33. I have been intensely researching it. The book Neurotribes presents a very in-depth picture of the history of autism and the research and theories for the past century. This is not saying that autism is not real, that it is not a thing to understand, or something that should not be researched. It is only saying that the idea that autism is On The Rise in a…

Thank you for sharing your thoughts despite me clearly having my feathers ruffled a bit.

Do you mind sharing, if you were formally diagnosed with autism? And did you have any developmental delays as a child? If so, how did your parents deal with those?

Based on what I've seen from friends and family with autistic children, and how their lives and family dynamics diverge so drastically from the established well-trod tracks of parenthood traveled for centuries, looking incomprehensible to outsiders, I don't believe it's possible for the current rates of autism to have been constant throughout history. There would have been some similar phenomenon to autism parenting known to us (though not necessarily by that name).

Re: Psychological and psychiatric terms to avoid

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Agree but it’s an insult to people that actually have it when it’s used casually. Like “bipolar” or “schizophrenic” also.

I see how it can be perceived this way, but I think it's because of the novelty of the condition (so people aren't used to it being casually used as much). For more established conditions, we don't really feel that way, e.g. like, how: "Turn the flashlight off, I'm going blind!" "This jump scare gave me a heart attack!" "Monday's make me depressed" Are not really considered an insult to the blind, people with heart c…

Being blinded is something many people temporarily experience without being “visually impaired.” Feeling depressed is something that everyone experiences, while they may not be clinically depressed. Heart attacks are similarly common; they are hardly a misunderstood phenomenon.

These things are not the same as misunderstood conditions suffered by a small minority.

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I have autism and only discovered it two years ago at age 33. I have been intensely researching it. The book Neurotribes presents a very in-depth picture of the history of autism and the research and theories for the past century. This is not saying that autism is not real, that it is not a thing to understand, or something that should not be researched. It is only saying that the idea that autism is On The Rise in a…

I didn't want to engage someone apparently so angry in that direction, but since you took time to respond kindly and share you experience, I will add my comment too. The centering of autism as being something happening to "the parents" and framing autistic children (or adults, for that matter) as being unable to form human connections or acquiring basic skills is something a large part of autistic people are pushing…

I am skeptical that all of those people on Twitter are actually autistic and not just self-diagnosed.

Despite having a clinical definition and a defined diagnostic process, autism has become sort of an identity that people celebrate and use in a casual, colloquial way.

People have told me that I could have been diagnosed as autistic because of how I act as an adult, but I didn't have developmental delays. I had a pretty normal early childhood. So I don't identify as that.

So perhaps it's better for parents to leave the term "autism" for people who wish to self-identify that way, and using a different term to describe the thing that happens to their children. Too often they end up clashing over this word, and I don't think it's healthy or constructive for either side.

So maybe the authors of the paper were right, but not in the way they wanted to be.

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Cool, as long as it's your thoughts and not mine. I have no problem with other people policing their own speech and thoughts. My problem starts when they start to enforce what they found on other people.

Do you recognize that there is a distinction between enforcement, and being told "using this particular form of speech is harmful to certain people - if you continue choosing to use it, you are choosing to present yourself as someone who values your own speech over someone else's comfort, and will be judged accordingly"? If so, then we're in broad agreement (though we may disagree about where the line between social…

I was with you earlier in the thread when you wrote "effective way to improve clarity and to identify unexamined (and perhaps unfounded) assumptions". With you on that because that is ultimately a selfish motivation - one wants one's ideas to be understood, one wants to influence, one wants to be correct ("check assumptions").

But this:

> using this particular form of speech is harmful to certain people

... are a few bridges too far in my mind. Who are these certain people? What do they think, not you? For instance, I'm gay, and homophobic slurs happen all the time in my life, whether coded or overt. But they don't harm me in any reasonable sense of the word.

I mean, should we not distinguish between physical harm, mental abuse, and discomfort with words?

To put a fine point on it, equating "discomfort" and "harm" is flawed.

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So a clickbait piece in on a Buzzfeed-style site?

It’s fluff (trivia) but it’s real. Those titles exist. If buzzfeed has a listicle of the most populous cities, Does that mean those cities are not real?

Re: Psychological and psychiatric terms to avoid

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Not sure if these are psych terms, but just wanted to add them to be used instead of the ones on the left: * Depressed -> struggling (places focus on society instead of individual) * Burned out -> exploited (places focus on employer instead of employee)

Is it fair to think that "burned out" isn't always coming from an employer-employee power imbalance? Startup types or small business owners burn out. Benign employers can have employees who burn themselves out. As a freelancer, I'm quite responsible for my work habits and workload; I sometimes burn out, but I'd never think of it as having been exploited.

No that's true, burnout has many causes, but I suppose that I'm thinking about it at a systems/societal level.

The current era is much more difficult to survive in than when I was growing up in the 80s and 90s. Because wealth inequality (high housing/healthcare/education costs, low wages) has come to dominate our lives. We're working twice as many hours for half as much buying power. We may not see it as much with our 6 figure incomes, but at least half the US is basically living hand to mouth in dead end jobs. No help is coming from the top, so until people wake up and realize that the power is in their labor and organizing power, nothing will change. That's why I think that framing and terminology are so important for progress.

Also I define exploitation as receiving less than the lion's share of any income generated by a worker. So if a business bills someone out at $50/hr and pays them $15/hr, that's exploitive. Very few businesses bill less than that, but a huge number pay less than that. So exploitation has become the way that business is done in the US and any countries we exploit for our manufacturing needs. Selling shoes for $100 made by workers who are paid $1/hr, etc.

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Except everyone currently understands that to mean the opposite of what it means.

Just because everyone understands "literally" to mean "not literally", that doesn't make everyone right.

It does however make it infeasible to redefine.

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Not on the list: "Oh, it's just my OCD" -- Either you have been diagnosed (and consequently suffer from OCD) or you have an obsessive personality (sometimes a quality). But OCD is a diagnosis, abusing it do describe a personality trait doesn't serve the many many people impacted by the disorder. -- From someone with an affected loved one.

There’s a great episode of the Australian TV series You Can’t Ask That which interviews a group of OCD sufferers about their lived experience. It really opened my eyes to just how appallingly cavalier it is to refer to one’s minor neuroses as “OCD”. An excerpt from the show: https://youtu.be/tkrFgKW5LvY (Australians can stream it on iView)

Thanks for the link Andrew, it looks like a good show!
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