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Is this the end of crypto?

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Re: Is this the end of crypto?

#61
post #7

Didn't blow up enough to scare people away long term, it will be back soon enough.

Exactly. FTX.com wasn't even legal in the US. The Terra/Luna crash was WAY worse for people, and that didn't do much to scare people away. BTC has held above $16k, which is really saying something considering the circumstances.

A bunch of crypto-coins held up off the market with bankruptcy trustees for the next decade?

Heck, Mt. Gox hasn't even paid out yet!

Crypto is dead until your neighbor that is dumber than you starts getting richer than you, again!

Re: Is this the end of crypto?

#62
> The disappointment is that, 14 years after the Bitcoin blockchain was invented, little of this promise has been realised. Crypto’s frenzy drew in talent from bright graduates to Wall Street professionals, and capital from vc firms, sovereign-wealth and pension funds. Vast quantities of money, time, talent and energy have been used to build what amount to virtual casinos. Efficient, decentralised versions of mainstream financial functions, such as currency exchanges and lending, exist. But many consumers, fearful of losing their money, do not trust them. Instead they are used to speculate on unstable tokens. Money-launderers, sanctions-dodgers and scammers abound.

Here's the thing: Bitcoin doesn't need you, Mr. Entrepreneur. It doesn't need your black turtleneck savant charisma. It doesn't need your ambition. It doesn't need your "innovation." It doesn't need your groveling before regulators to build your moat. And most of all, it doesn't need your VC money.

This is a problem for said entrepreneurs and VCs. Because they have turtlenecks beanbags, money, innovation, and groveling just burning holes in their collective pockets - waiting to find an outlet.

But it turns out that "crypto" and "DeFi" do need Mr. Entrepreneur and his merry band of VCs. A lot. Why? Because these are efforts to replicate the existing financial system on the sandy foundation of "blockchain." And that's an expensive business.

Toss in the loosest monetary policy in US history and the recipe is complete. A quorum of charismatic entrepreneurs fleecing gullible VCs and depositors out of fake wealth, tossing it into a big pile, dousing with a liberal quantity of gasoline, and setting the entire thing ablaze.

This may or may not be the end of "crypto," but Bitcoin continues to operate just as before - without the need for exchanges, regulators, entrepreneurs, financiers, or visionaries.

Re: Is this the end of crypto?

#64
post #55

When Crypto was young it was this cool new technology that mostly interesting because of the underlying tech. But even back then it was mostly valuable for buying drugs online and other illegal stuff. Now it's that and a way to scam people of their life savings. I do hope it dies out, it should have been heavily regulated from the get go. Way too many people saw these high production commercials with their favorite c…

Good government is a luxury many lack.

Agree. For example, people who save in bitcoin or ether. They don't have any influence into how the system is managed.

Re: Is this the end of crypto?

#66
post #7

Didn't blow up enough to scare people away long term, it will be back soon enough.

Exactly. FTX.com wasn't even legal in the US. The Terra/Luna crash was WAY worse for people, and that didn't do much to scare people away. BTC has held above $16k, which is really saying something considering the circumstances.

BTC, A deflationary currency that lost 75% in value in a year, despite all the problems coming from projects that aren't even BTC.

Re: Is this the end of crypto?

#67
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good government is a luxury many lack.

USD is available to anyone

What exactly do you mean by that, because if you do mean American dollar, I can point out multiple parties who simply cannot use US currency? Hell, I can point out to transactions that are prohibited if they even touch some type of activity and are in US dollars.

In other words, could you elaborate?

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