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Is this the end of crypto?

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Re: Is this the end of crypto?

#11
When Crypto was young it was this cool new technology that mostly interesting because of the underlying tech. But even back then it was mostly valuable for buying drugs online and other illegal stuff.

Now it's that and a way to scam people of their life savings. I do hope it dies out, it should have been heavily regulated from the get go. Way too many people saw these high production commercials with their favorite celebrities they trust telling them to invest in crypto and lost everything.

It never had a real use outside of scamming people and buying illegal shit, no matter how hard others pushed to normalize crypto it never happened. And why would it? Everyone was yelling at people to hold. Don't spend it, it will go to the moon!

And sure it keeps your money away from the spooky scary government. But I prefer my government insured bank account using a government managed currency and recourse for any scams/hacks that might happen to me.

But I don't think it will ever die. Just like MLMS, pyramid schemes and other crap like that.

Also don't even get me started on these centralized exchanges where you don't even own your key and have to verify your identity (Which is how most users interacted with crypto). It's completely counter to the point of crypto.

Re: Is this the end of crypto?

#12
No, There is no entity to bail out corrupted, centralized crypto exchanges. The philosophy is that what doesn't kill you makes you just stronger. So, Crypto will come back stronger than ever. Nothing is too big to fail in crypto, unlike cancerous financial institutions in the current system

Re: Is this the end of crypto?

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post #3

Betteridge's Law of headlines suggests: No. So no, it is not the end of crypto, no matter how many scams, rug-pulls, bans, etc, etc. Sorry to burst the bubble and to give the answer you didn't want to hear, especially for those who have been begging for its end after 14+ years for it to all be banned and to be 100% totally shutdown. Crypto is here to stay.

Wow, I never heard of Betteridge's law before, but it makes perfect sense. TIL something new!

Re: Is this the end of crypto?

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post #10

The mainstream response to this debacle is a bit incomprehensible. FTX was the antithesis of cryptocurrency; it was a centralised exchange, that was also trying to become a bank, and was AFAICT trying to kill DeFi [0]. The failure/success of FTX has no relation to the soundness of cryptocurrency. I do however hope that this crash means fewer people will speculate on the prices such that it can finally stabilise a bit…

> FTX was the antithesis of cryptocurrency

No true scotsman. "The USSR wasn't real communism."

What cryptocurrency could be or should be in an ideal world is irrelevant. If cryptocurrency fails to live up to its ideals, it may be because these ideals are impossible to fulfill. That could be due to technological limitations, human nature, or something else. And in this case, we have no choice but to judge crypto for what it looks like in the world of today.

What matters is what cryptocurrency looks like in practice. And that is FTX, Mt Gox, Three Arrows, and others.

Crypto isn't sound enough to have mass adoption.

The USSR was real communism. And FTX is crypto principles at work.

Re: Is this the end of crypto?

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post #10

The mainstream response to this debacle is a bit incomprehensible. FTX was the antithesis of cryptocurrency; it was a centralised exchange, that was also trying to become a bank, and was AFAICT trying to kill DeFi [0]. The failure/success of FTX has no relation to the soundness of cryptocurrency. I do however hope that this crash means fewer people will speculate on the prices such that it can finally stabilise a bit…

I love the irrational optimism you have for this solution in search of a problem.

Re: Is this the end of crypto?

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post #10

The mainstream response to this debacle is a bit incomprehensible. FTX was the antithesis of cryptocurrency; it was a centralised exchange, that was also trying to become a bank, and was AFAICT trying to kill DeFi [0]. The failure/success of FTX has no relation to the soundness of cryptocurrency. I do however hope that this crash means fewer people will speculate on the prices such that it can finally stabilise a bit…

> FTX was the antithesis of cryptocurrency No true scotsman. "The USSR wasn't real communism." What cryptocurrency could be or should be in an ideal world is irrelevant. If cryptocurrency fails to live up to its ideals, it may be because these ideals are impossible to fulfill. That could be due to technological limitations, human nature, or something else. And in this case, we have no choice but to judge crypto for w…

I'm a user of Bitcoin and I never used any exchange.

Re: Is this the end of crypto?

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post #10

The mainstream response to this debacle is a bit incomprehensible. FTX was the antithesis of cryptocurrency; it was a centralised exchange, that was also trying to become a bank, and was AFAICT trying to kill DeFi [0]. The failure/success of FTX has no relation to the soundness of cryptocurrency. I do however hope that this crash means fewer people will speculate on the prices such that it can finally stabilise a bit…

Soundness of the technology? No. People’s willingness to use it? Absolutely.
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