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Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

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> I remember Apple and Google did. Was there a broader conspiracy? I wrote FAANG cause I didn't remember all involved, which was my bad. It was Adobe, Apple Inc., Google, Intel, Intuit, Pixar, Lucasfilm and eBay that got caught in the anti trust suit. Enough big players to seriously affect job opportunities and labour costs from rising. > This $415mm settlement [1]? That was the latest judge sentence, which I hadn't…

> I would argue 400 million is still low Low, but not so low that it makes wage conspiracies worth it.

It definitely makes it worth it if you merely risk but are not guaranteed to lose about as much as you underpaid and avoid compounding increases.

Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

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Yeah, I was describing a perspective of a russia-born person who never actually travelled to the western hemisphere and whose knowledge of South American countries are formed by ambient osmosis, not active research. I know that no South American country supports the recent russian invasion (and thank god for that), but I was under the (apparently wrong) impression that there were non-trivial factions opposing the US.…

I doubt Venezuela would have extradited them but mostly all the countries in the Americas are on friendly terms. Of course there’s your standard disagreements between neighbors but, as far as I know, there’s no outright hostilities going on. Well, outside of some rebels and narco groups. Not like the 80s where the Soviets were stirring up trouble at least.

Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Honduras?, el salvador.., I don't know if those countries have extradition agreements with usa.

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A small thought experiment: - Book sales in 2021 were about _9_ billion dollars. [0] - Wage theft in the US is estimated at _50_ billion dollars. [1] Can you imagine if the resources of the justice and labour departments would prioritize citizen wage over publishers' revenue? Would you rather have funds allocated towards social justice or have them spent on intimidating foreign nationals completely outside US jurisdi…

>>Would you rather have funds allocated towards social justice or have them spent on intimidating foreign nationals I would rather the justice department, and labor dept choose their targets for non-political reasons, neither for "social justice" nor corporate protectionism

It must be one of the triumphs of capitalism that forcing employers to pay their workers what they're owed is considered a partisan action.

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At least the anti-democracy party didn’t name themselves after democracy. That would’ve been an even worse joke.

the point im trying to make is they both hopelessly anti-democracy. they all love lobbying (= anti-democracy to me: the deeper pockets have more influence) there in washington

Like most things, anti-democratic activity is a spectrum rather than black or white. It seems fairly obvious to me that there is a large gulf between the two parties on that spectrum.

Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

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A small thought experiment: - Book sales in 2021 were about _9_ billion dollars. [0] - Wage theft in the US is estimated at _50_ billion dollars. [1] Can you imagine if the resources of the justice and labour departments would prioritize citizen wage over publishers' revenue? Would you rather have funds allocated towards social justice or have them spent on intimidating foreign nationals completely outside US jurisdi…

Wage theft is committed by millions of employers, this "theft" was committed by just a few people. While I agree with your general sentiment, the resources required to prosecute wage theft would be vastly greater than to prosecute this case. That being said, they should definitely prosecute wage theft much more than they are now. Maybe the fear of jail time if wage theft were actually prosecuted a few times would det…

Instead, how much would it cost for the IRS to check everyone's returns reconciliation against employer statements?

Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

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Me and my colleagues will be affected by the end of Z library and co related projects.

Here in Brazil and for sure in most second and third world countries, people don't have money to spend in books.

You can argue that people can go to the library, but in most cases it's even expensive to take a bus or taxi even a Uber.

I'm a law student at an university in brazil. Law books are really expensive. Even though my university have a library, sometimes it doesn't have the books that the professors ask us to read.

Since I found z library I could have access to most of books that I needed.

I do know that the writers and publishers have costs and they need to make money, but I don't agree with the fact that we have to pay to have knowledge. It's more like if we don't have money, we can't have knowledge.

Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

#168

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> I remember Apple and Google did. Was there a broader conspiracy? I wrote FAANG cause I didn't remember all involved, which was my bad. It was Adobe, Apple Inc., Google, Intel, Intuit, Pixar, Lucasfilm and eBay that got caught in the anti trust suit. Enough big players to seriously affect job opportunities and labour costs from rising. > This $415mm settlement [1]? That was the latest judge sentence, which I hadn't…

> I would argue 400 million is still low Low, but not so low that it makes wage conspiracies worth it.

If there average payout is 5,770 per employee and the average salary jump while changing jobs is 10-20%.

The math is pretty in favour of having a wage conspiracy, thats without even considering the cost of not being caught.

Chance of being caught * average salary * cost of poaching * average salary rise due to poaching * number of employees / fine

Maybe my napkin math is wrong but the chance of being caught has to be very high and the average salary or number of employees very low for it to make any sense.

And being google and apple in california, the employee and salary is not gonna be low...

Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

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> Wage theft is committed by millions of employers... Yes, and of those there are a handful doing it to millions of employees. Wage theft is not a few night shifts rounded off at SMEs. Plenty of traded companies doing it, no reason why you cannot target low numbers of big fish.

> there are a handful doing it to millions of employees Has someone credibly identified them?

Both Walmart and Amazon are notorious for disregarding minimum wage laws as an example of 'big fish'. With the fines usually applied this is just the price of doing business for these companies.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/275064-supreme-...

https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/2/22262294/amazon-flex-wage-...

Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

#170

A small thought experiment: - Book sales in 2021 were about _9_ billion dollars. [0] - Wage theft in the US is estimated at _50_ billion dollars. [1] Can you imagine if the resources of the justice and labour departments would prioritize citizen wage over publishers' revenue? Would you rather have funds allocated towards social justice or have them spent on intimidating foreign nationals completely outside US jurisdi…

I have family that works for DOL's Wage & Hour division. The amount of wage theft is _staggering_. They are chronically understaffed and overworked. Plus, every time a Republican administration comes into power, their enforcement power gets severely limited, except in the most egregious cases.
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