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Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by Barrin92 »

keewee7 wrote: post #68

I'm an EU citizen and support the GDPR. But it's only a question of time before the US will interpet these fines as an undeclared trade war and make up the legal framework to do retaliatory strikes against EU tech companies. Borders and tariffs will be the long-term future of the Internet.

If the US choses to interpret the GDPR that way, despite the fact that some significant receivers of fines are European itself (like H&M, Vodafone, two Italian energy and telecoms, Marriott and British Airways) then that would just show that American tech is an extended arm of the American government and in that case we should prioritize our sovereignty in the EU.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by tephra »

knaekhoved wrote: post #77
femboy wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GDPR applies to all companies that provide services to EU residents.

The EU can certainly claim any absurd jurisdiction they like, but how are they planning to enforce this? Ultimately it seems the primary thing they can do is censor Discord from EU internet.

They have a company in the EU which makes it quite easy to enforce given that EU companies must follow EU law.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by burkaman »

Hikikomori wrote: post #13

Seems insane, many apps keeps running with an icon visible in the notification area when exited like that. Discords icon also shows if you are in a voice channel.

It's not just that the application keeps running, but the active voice call you're in stays connected and everyone can still hear you. That is definitely counterintuitive, I would at least expect a popup saying "did you mean to close the call, this is just minimizing it to the background" or something.

Also, that's 1 of 5 issues.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by cpsns »

can16358p wrote: post #87
knaekhoved wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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HN is not a monolith, many of us have become extremely sceptical of the tech world and “culture” in recent years despite being part of it.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by rakoo »

can16358p wrote: post #19

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This is the reason why GDPR is something good.

Developers are not above the law. Companies are definitely not above the law, considering that the law is an impediment to their functioning and not something they will fight for.

The reign of super-large companies is a threat to democracy, because a democracy is made for its citizens; a company is a tool and should remain under control of society. Why can companies decide how much taxes they pay ? Why can they decide where they pay them ? How can they be so powerful as to decide that breaking society's will is merely a fine, and is taken into account in the budget ? This is ridiculous. The companies are not citizens, they do not need to be cajoled.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by matkoniecz »

keewee7 wrote: post #68

I'm an EU citizen and support the GDPR. But it's only a question of time before the US will interpet these fines as an undeclared trade war and make up the legal framework to do retaliatory strikes against EU tech companies. Borders and tariffs will be the long-term future of the Internet.

Given that EU companies are also getting fines, not only foreign ones, this interpretation would be silly.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by Wazako »

654wak654 wrote: post #12
elAhmo wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't Skype have the same behaviour? Clicking "X" doesn't close the application.

Skype is the reason this behavior was popularized in VoIP apps. TeamSpeak and Mumble have a setting that allows this too, because people got used to Skype not shutting down after clicking "X".

Wasn't it msn messanger ?

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by conradfr »

origin_path wrote: post #26

Does Discord even have a corporate presence in the EU? For the French government to be fining companies because they happen to dislike the UI is such a random and unpredictable decision that it seems like a strong signal for US firms to not set up offices in the EU at all.

Technically the Cnil is independent from the government.

https://www.cnil.fr/en/node/287

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by [deleted] »

tl wrote: post #3

> When a user logged into a voice room closes the DISCORD application window by clicking on the "X" icon at the top right of the window in Microsoft Windows, they actually just put the application in the background and stay logged into the voice room. However, in Microsoft Windows, clicking on the "X" at the top right of the last visible application window will exit the application for the vast majority of applicatio…

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Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by Stranger43 »

knaekhoved wrote: post #77
femboy wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

GDPR applies to all companies that provide services to EU residents.

The EU can certainly claim any absurd jurisdiction they like, but how are they planning to enforce this? Ultimately it seems the primary thing they can do is censor Discord from EU internet.

The real world enforcement would be for the EU to Freeze all money transfer from the EU to said company. essentially making it a cost only proposition for that company to keep trying to sell to European customers.

Sure shady people will dream up all sorts of fancy money laundering schemes to make it looks like there is no transfers but those are already illegal as fraud on both side of the Atlantic with potential jail times.

The EU don't have to block any content to efficiently enforce GDPR against US companies trying to market profitably in the EU.

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