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> declaration was signed by the US It was never fully ratified [1]. It was ratified by Russia and, somehow, Afghanistan. [1] https://indicators.ohchr.org/

That's hardly news. But you're looking in the wrong place. It was called the "Vienna Declaration and Programme of Action" it was not an agreement to be ratified, but a course of action for the UN members to follow, which includes the US. Of course in United States social justice is seen as a political stance, it's not surprising from the country that has signed and not ratified - Convention on the Elimination of All…

> yeah, social justice is political only in USA

You’re shifting your goal posts. You said “social justice is an objective of US as a whole” and hence “not a political view.” That’s false.

> Even Iran ratified one treaty more than US

Which shows the difference. Ratification, in America, is not performative. Those treaties can become the basis for lawsuits against the U.S. in U.S. courts. If you’re arguing women have a better time in Iran, or civic and political rights are better protected in Russia, because they ratified those chapters, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

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Wage theft is committed by millions of employers, this "theft" was committed by just a few people. While I agree with your general sentiment, the resources required to prosecute wage theft would be vastly greater than to prosecute this case. That being said, they should definitely prosecute wage theft much more than they are now. Maybe the fear of jail time if wage theft were actually prosecuted a few times would det…

In my country wage theft is committed on migrant labour. Western Europe is not much different than Quatar in that respect only nobody cares.

The world starts caring when the Olympics or World Cup come to a country. I hadn’t even heard about Qatar prior to them hosting the World Cup.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's hardly news. But you're looking in the wrong place. It was called the "Vienna Declaration and Programme of Action" it was not an agreement to be ratified, but a course of action for the UN members to follow, which includes the US. Of course in United States social justice is seen as a political stance, it's not surprising from the country that has signed and not ratified - Convention on the Elimination of All…

> yeah, social justice is political only in USA You’re shifting your goal posts. You said “social justice is an objective of US as a whole” and hence “not a political view.” That’s false. > Even Iran ratified one treaty more than US Which shows the difference. Ratification, in America, is not performative. Those treaties can become the basis for lawsuits against the U.S. in U.S. courts. If you’re arguing women have a…

> You’re shifting your goal posts. You said “social justice is an objective of US as a whole” and hence “not a political view.” That’s false.

If you're saying that US usually says one thing, and does another thing entirely, you're right.

When someone signs an official document in representation of their Country, they are actually saying that the Country's objective align with the things written in the document.

They signed a document that stated that social justice is not political, it's a human right.

You're now saying that's false in the US.

So either you or the US are lying.

> Which shows the difference. Ratification, in America, is not performative

like the ratification of

International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination

in 1994?

Are we there yet?

> Those treaties can become the basis for lawsuits against the U.S. in U.S. courts

Lawsuits, like the first of a long list a guy named Donald Trump had to face for his act of racism, in 1973, for refusing to rent houses to black people?

That totally blocked him from becoming President of United States and from running again at the next elections.

Because in USA nothing is performative.

Trump BTW was at least honest in treating things the rest of the World consider global as internal political arguments; when he felt that climate change wasn't important to his administration, he withdrawn from the Paris climate accord.

Seriously, you're talking like the US is the only country with the rule of law, where the ratification of an International treaty has actual legal consequences.

How come that Countries like Italy, France, Germany, even MONGOLIA, ratified all of them or more than 90% of them and US did not?

Are you saying that in Finland they have no justice system or engage in "performative treaty signing" as a cultural tribal tradition?

> If you’re arguing women have a better time in Iran, or civic and political rights are better protected in Russia, because they ratified those chapters, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

I've simply argued that they committed to the cause and failed.

US hasn't even tried.

If, as you say, they didn't out of fear of "lawsuits against the U.S. in U.S. courts" does that mean that you think US know that they do not meet the requirements?

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I know this won't be a popular take on HN, but while I can understand and to a certain extent sympathize with pirating movies (the intentional friction and arbitrary geographic limitations on access imposed by the multinational movie-industry conglomerates), I can't see stealing some poor author's work in the same light. Sure, people get hung-up about DRM (which can easily be removed by widely-accessible tools), but…

It's very simple actually. You (and most of HN) live in a tech industry bubble. Living wages in the U.S are terrible and disposable income is non-existent. I work a 9-5 just like everyone else but when it comes down to it I don't have the money to buy new books. I can either buy used paperback from a second-hand store, go to the library, or pirate an epub. None of these options pay the original author and are effecti…

BetterWorldBooks.com is excellent. I have bought from them for years. I recommend you try it.

Also, you wrote: > Libraries buy millions of books per year in the US -- expensive hardbacks. They must be the single largest buying group. That money pays authors. Also, I never once saw an author upset that a library was lending their book. The same is true for second hand book selling.

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I guess in 2022 "don't ever travel to countries that have extradition agreements with US" should've already been #0 opsec rule, above everything else. Sad for them. Does anyone know if Z-library provided torrent dumps?

"Does anyone know if Z-library provided torrent dumps? "

They didn't, but pilimi.org does (have to access via Tor to get the torrents). That said, there have been 0 seeders since the original ZLib bust. https://twitter.com/AnnaArchivist/status/1592654308516179970 (pilimi author) says there should be an http mirror now, and I'm probably stupid but I can't find it anywhere. Seems to me it's the end of Z-Library. The end of an era, really.

Re: Z-library founders arrested in Argentina

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That's hardly news. But you're looking in the wrong place. It was called the "Vienna Declaration and Programme of Action" it was not an agreement to be ratified, but a course of action for the UN members to follow, which includes the US. Of course in United States social justice is seen as a political stance, it's not surprising from the country that has signed and not ratified - Convention on the Elimination of All…

> yeah, social justice is political only in USA You’re shifting your goal posts. You said “social justice is an objective of US as a whole” and hence “not a political view.” That’s false. > Even Iran ratified one treaty more than US Which shows the difference. Ratification, in America, is not performative. Those treaties can become the basis for lawsuits against the U.S. in U.S. courts. If you’re arguing women have a…

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A friend recently gave me a printed copy of Legend of Drizzt. It was about 2 inches thick (3 books in 1), the printing was too small for my crappy eyes, lighting in my room at night is not great, and the printing went too close to the interior edge, all making it hard to read. So I bought a Kindle.

The Kindle worked much better. I got the Kindle Unlimited subscription at no extra cost for 3 months (then $10/mo afterwards), thinking I'd get access to any books on Amazon that were available in the Kindle format. You know, "Unlimited". Wrong! Kindle Unlimited means "whatever Kindle books Amazon wants to give you", not "Unlimited". They need to rename that to "Kindle Limited", "Kindle Picks", or whatever. Of course, this series was not part of KU.

I bought the first few books in the series, even though I already had the printed book, at $8/book, which is kinda pricey considering there are 36 books in the series, so it was going to cost ~$300 to read the whole thing. Then I found out I could download the books from the public library system. It's actually a pretty good model I think, because at least in Indiana, all of the public libraries are in a state-wide consortium, so there are about 5 copies of each book in the series available to "rent" for anyone in Indiana. And it's free.

The e-book business model of $8/book makes no sense to me, at least not for fiction. I don't want 36 already-read e-books sitting on my Kindle - it just junks things up. What I would like is to be able to take a photo of a book I already have, including the ISBN number, and get an electronic copy in my Kindle library for free. That would be so awesome, esp considering that as I get older, reading from a Kindle is way easier than dealing with a physical book.

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