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Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by raverbashing »

bovermyer wrote: post #16
raverbashing wrote: post #2

> When a user logged into a voice room closes the DISCORD application window by clicking on the "X" icon at the top right of the window in Microsoft Windows, they actually just put the application in the background and stay logged into the voice room. > DISCORD's behavior is different and may lead to users being heard by other members in the voice room when they thought they had left. Yeah, that's bad I'm not such a…

I'm not fond of regulatory agencies defining what constitutes an acceptable password policy. Also, regulatory agencies mandating UI designs - while in this case fairly innocuous - leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I'm even less a fan of discord having awful options there.

Because this is beyond UX and password policy, it's about behaviour that is bad

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by CodesInChaos »

ttyyzz wrote: post #22
tpxl wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> does Alt-F4 not do the right thing on Windows Alt-F4 closes the _window_, not the application. If the application can 'survive' without a window, not exiting the application is the correct behaviour.

Alt+F4 kills the process.

Alt+F4 asks the window to close. If it's the main window, this will by default terminate the message loop, shutting down the application. But the application is free to handle the message whatever way it likes. Asking for confirmation, ignoring it, hiding it or closing the window without terminating the process.

Like many (most?) applications which show a notification icon, discord hides the main window when the user presses Alt+F4 or clicks on the X instead of closing it.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by tephra »

origin_path wrote: post #26

Does Discord even have a corporate presence in the EU? For the French government to be fining companies because they happen to dislike the UI is such a random and unpredictable decision that it seems like a strong signal for US firms to not set up offices in the EU at all.

Indeed it looks like they have a company in the Netherlands https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/4410339409047-...

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by sschueller »

tl wrote: post #3

> When a user logged into a voice room closes the DISCORD application window by clicking on the "X" icon at the top right of the window in Microsoft Windows, they actually just put the application in the background and stay logged into the voice room. However, in Microsoft Windows, clicking on the "X" at the top right of the last visible application window will exit the application for the vast majority of applicatio…

Why do apps think it is necessary to start playing with the UI when we have a minimise button? When I click "X" I expect the application to exit as it did in Windows 1.0 and the minimise button to either put it in the startbar or the status bar but keep running.

EDIT: I remembered incorrectly, Windows 1.0 did not have a X button but a close button on the right side of the window.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by femboy »

origin_path wrote: post #26

Does Discord even have a corporate presence in the EU? For the French government to be fining companies because they happen to dislike the UI is such a random and unpredictable decision that it seems like a strong signal for US firms to not set up offices in the EU at all.

GDPR applies to all companies that provide services to EU residents.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by the_mitsuhiko »

Hikikomori wrote: post #13

Seems insane, many apps keeps running with an icon visible in the notification area when exited like that. Discords icon also shows if you are in a voice channel.

Discord did not get this fine for this one point, but for the sum of all issues.

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by tyfon »

origin_path wrote: post #26

Does Discord even have a corporate presence in the EU? For the French government to be fining companies because they happen to dislike the UI is such a random and unpredictable decision that it seems like a strong signal for US firms to not set up offices in the EU at all.

They accept money from EU customers so, yes

Re: Discord fined €800k for failing to comply with several obligations of the GDPR

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Post by simiones »

ttyyzz wrote: post #22
tpxl wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> does Alt-F4 not do the right thing on Windows Alt-F4 closes the _window_, not the application. If the application can 'survive' without a window, not exiting the application is the correct behaviour.

Alt+F4 kills the process.

Nope, Alt+F4 is the close window shortcut.

This is even visible in the OS-controller Window Menu - hit Alt+Spacebar in any window of any app, and you'll see the Window menu appear, which will include an option for Close (the current window), showing that the shortcut for it is Alt+F4. This is even true for modal dialogs (if they are real Windows modal dialogs).

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