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Infosys leaked FullAdminAccess AWS keys on PyPI for over a year

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Re: Infosys leaked FullAdminAccess AWS keys on PyPI for over a year

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Post by iaml »

nell wrote: post #143

This thread is full of generalized insults at a million people based on where they work. If someone did the same based on a different attribute of a population, they'd be banned. I've worked at one of these companies but left over a decade ago. I know how we're looked at when we do client work (part of why I left). Some of my colleagues were less competent, true. But, some will wipe the floor with the client employee…

Even though hn commenters like to pretend otherwise, if you have a close look you can find many outright bigoted takes here.

Re: Infosys leaked FullAdminAccess AWS keys on PyPI for over a year

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Post by qwertyuiop_ »

nell wrote: post #143

This thread is full of generalized insults at a million people based on where they work. If someone did the same based on a different attribute of a population, they'd be banned. I've worked at one of these companies but left over a decade ago. I know how we're looked at when we do client work (part of why I left). Some of my colleagues were less competent, true. But, some will wipe the floor with the client employee…

It is a tough place, and you will be discriminated against.

Calling out incompetency which exposed privileged patient data is not discrimination.

Rough analogy: you don’t want a pilot who flunked basic aviation class to fly your plane and it’s not discrimination to keep him or her out of the cockpit.

Re: Infosys leaked FullAdminAccess AWS keys on PyPI for over a year

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Post by crocwrestler »

nell wrote: post #143

This thread is full of generalized insults at a million people based on where they work. If someone did the same based on a different attribute of a population, they'd be banned. I've worked at one of these companies but left over a decade ago. I know how we're looked at when we do client work (part of why I left). Some of my colleagues were less competent, true. But, some will wipe the floor with the client employee…

That's fine, but people use these companies to presumably receive competent contractors, not to subsidise the country of India

Re: Infosys leaked FullAdminAccess AWS keys on PyPI for over a year

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Post by approxim8ion »

COMMENT___ wrote: post #168
approxim8ion wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's good old-fashioned racism.

Sorry, but it is not.

In another comment, you ponder whether it is a "cultural problem". Yeah, sorry, but it absolutely is.

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Post by mindentropy »

fellellor wrote: post #130
P5fRxh5kUvp2th wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No competent employee stays in those companies I gotta say, this explains so much. We have a FTE who came from infosys and he's very good. I have such a hard time squaring that with the team that submits an initial PR with the bin and obj directories checked in, then follows it up by adding .gitignore.txt file before FINALLY submitting a .gitignore file. And then finding them representing currency as float, or find…

Programming/anything to do with PCs in India is a rich man’s hobby. Tinkering is not encouraged in colleges in the country. In any case this is a big country with a lot of talented devs. But for the same reason the pool of mediocre programmers is also pretty big.

>Programming/anything to do with PCs in India is a rich man’s hobby.

This is not true. We had a good culture of self assembled PC enthusiasts in our district. This was in early 2000s. In fact it has reduced now maybe due to lack of interest or something even though the prices of PCs have dropped significantly. I see many people use their PCs as locked up phones with no curiosity of hardware.

>Tinkering is not encouraged in colleges in the country.

This sad state is still present to this day and it has become worse as the hardware gets more and more locked down. I don't see much interest in Linux in the younger generations.

Re: Infosys leaked FullAdminAccess AWS keys on PyPI for over a year

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Post by COMMENT___ »

approxim8ion wrote: post #184
COMMENT___ wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, but it is not.

In another comment, you ponder whether it is a "cultural problem". Yeah, sorry, but it absolutely is.

What I actually meant was “corporate culture”. Culture != race.

Thanks for reviewing my comments, though.

Re: Infosys leaked FullAdminAccess AWS keys on PyPI for over a year

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Post by mindentropy »

nell wrote: post #143

This thread is full of generalized insults at a million people based on where they work. If someone did the same based on a different attribute of a population, they'd be banned. I've worked at one of these companies but left over a decade ago. I know how we're looked at when we do client work (part of why I left). Some of my colleagues were less competent, true. But, some will wipe the floor with the client employee…

The funny part is WITCH is propped up by these very companies complaining because they themselves are least bothered about quality. I have seen many executives in suit and tie visit them, get treated like royalty and shake their heads and talk bullshit.

I always used to wonder how can someone be so stupid repeatedly but then I learnt along the way that engineer's opinions hold very little value in the way of making money at the lowest cost and quality possible that they can get by.

Re: Infosys leaked FullAdminAccess AWS keys on PyPI for over a year

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Post by mindentropy »

alisonatwork wrote: post #88
alfiedotwtf wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen Infosys-produced code that there was no way it was going to work... turns out that after I googled it, multiple lines were straight 1:1 copy pasta from multiple StackOverflow answers - just jammed together in the hope that something would work. I was shook.

This is unfortunately common even outside of Infosys. I've experienced it at several of my former employers, although admittedly more in China than in other countries I worked. It's interesting when you sit beside a developer who does this kind of stuff in a pair-programming context, because it immediately becomes clear that they really don't have a clue how to read and understand code in the abstract. Their process…

Man, I echo the same sentiments. Even I too have this compulsion for neatness and tidiness and find it near impossible to work on completely messed up code.

>But realistically even if I didn't do that, I'd probably still be 20 years into my career and working as a senior dev, so what's the difference?

Similar thoughts. Looking back I think about all the time I had sacrificed to make myself better but for what? There is no value for this as I have seen totally incompetent people still standing and moving much ahead. The corporate juggernaut does not give a damn about workmanship or quality, something I learnt later in my life as I took a pause to catch my breath.

Re: Infosys leaked FullAdminAccess AWS keys on PyPI for over a year

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Post by willcipriano »

P5fRxh5kUvp2th wrote: post #59
precompute wrote: post #9

> To put it bluntly, I’m not sure I trusted Infosys to revoke this key in a timely manner. So I did it for them with aws iam delete-access-key --access-key-id=$AWS_ACCESS_KEY_ID, and now the key is useless: Hilarious. Infosys is a known "mass recruiter" in indian colleges. WITCH (Wipro, Infosys, TCS, Cognizant, HCL) companies is where talent goes to die. No competent employee stays in those companies (from what I've…

> No competent employee stays in those companies I gotta say, this explains so much. We have a FTE who came from infosys and he's very good. I have such a hard time squaring that with the team that submits an initial PR with the bin and obj directories checked in, then follows it up by adding .gitignore.txt file before FINALLY submitting a .gitignore file. And then finding them representing currency as float, or find…

Imagine trying to debug a issue in the middle of the night and you go to the logs to find "Unhandled exception handled." dozens of times.

I'd probably just quit.

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Post by ajdoingnothing »

dwheeler wrote: post #164
andrewxdiamond wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think there are any people who understand the full stack. I don’t think anyone like that has existed in computing in a very long time. It’s truly impossible for a single human to actually understand the physics of electronics, the world of CPU micro-architecture, packet shuffling network equipment, the nuance of CSS, and the never ending complexity of UI/UX design. The only way this statement could be accurat…

I disagree, it takes lots of time but it is possible. Personal example: I have an electronics engineering degree that was 1 semester short of a physics degree, so I learned quantum mechanics, electromagnetic field theory, transistors, and how to create a CPU (I even created a CPU out of simple gates and way too much wire wrapping). I love computer software, so I learned assembly, how to write compilers and operating…

Jack of all trades, master of none. I don't think it's bad at all: at least you can specialise at something (quicker) whenever the need arises.
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