Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

Post by xiphias2 » Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 10:36 AM UTC

_yb2s wrote: post #25

As a scientist, I often have to deal with similar BS of a reviewer misunderstanding a submitted journal article, literally insisting we do something we already did, and explained in the paper. I try to just own the fact that I didn't make my explanation clear and visible enough, so I just submit an updated version along with a comment like "We thank the reviewer for pointing out that we didn't clearly articulate our…

Post by amadeuspagel » Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 10:39 AM UTC

tiluha wrote: post #277

Gentil wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cos users want mobile apps. When Roam research and Obsidian launched, one of the biggest thing people were ranting about was that their lack of mobile apps. Simple. Google also is dominating the browser market. Not to mention, I see Manifest v3 as something in this direction. They just don't have the exact amount of control they do in Play store is all. So my question is, how long are you gonna run?

The problem with Obsidian was that you couldn't use it on your phone at all. If they had had a hosted version with a mobile friendly web interface, i don't think a mobile app would have been neccessary

Post by arvindamirtaa » Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 10:51 AM UTC

Joeri wrote: post #240

dekhn wrote: post #14

Is there any large group representing App developers that could manage the large-scale negotiation and legal wrangling required to force Apple and Google to be more helpful when rejecting legitimate applications? When I worked in Google (Ads, then later in Recommendations for Play and youtube) people often said this was intention to avoid teaching spammers how to get around the rules. But it's clear there are enough…

IANAL, but isn’t that group called “the court system”? This person is stuck in google’s kangaroo court, but they should just switch venues as soon as the apps are removed and sue google for damages. They can demonstrate google materially impacts their business and is acting in bad faith. Going through google’s legal department is probably going to quickly get the result they want.

Post by jonas-w » Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 11:25 AM UTC

klipklop wrote: post #77

_yb2s wrote: post #8

This whole app store thing with Apple/Google is BS. Imagine if your car could only drive to locations approved as safe by the car manufacturer, and they could auto-ban your Grandma's house with no recourse.

There needs to be a way to have 3rd party app stores on these platforms. Tired of the private platform argument. Google/Apple works hard to crush viable competition. It's time for laws to be written to step in and fix this.

Post by jfoster » Thu, Nov 17, 2022, 11:45 AM UTC

tpxl wrote: post #265

jfoster wrote: post #205

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But there might be alternate approaches that allow for more freedom. For instance, what if Google assessed the risk level of each app and presented that to users, rather than blocking publishing entirely? They could add all sorts of scary warnings in-between a user and a suspicious looking app, but eventually still allow both users & app developers to proceed if they have sufficiently high intent. They could even mon…

> They could add all sorts of scary warnings in-between a user and a suspicious looking app That's a nice looking app, would be a shame if it had a big scary warning on it. If they did that, they would rightfully be accused of running a racket.