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Re: Tesla has used space characters in internal emails to identify leaks

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To be really secure when leaking typed documents, I get 5 colleagues together and we whisper the leak along the line, so that many of the words are changed by the end. For each word we are randomly spaced to defeat Musk's space-based detection. We then take the output of this and transcribe it over an old HAM radio to a friend in China. He lives on a farm, so he then dictates it to a chicken who writes it in the sand…

Are you not worried the chicken is a Musk informant? Shouldn't you be using a range of animals who each only have access to part of the message?

Chickens are well known for being secretive creatures. I'm yet to hear one to repeat anything that has been told to them.

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There was a lawsuit that involved stealing intellectual property in Germany. A company accused google of stealing lyrics from their page [0].

They managed to prove in court that google actually took their texts by embedding a Morse code. They used ' and ` as Morse characters in their lyrics to mark their property.

However, as far as I know, they lost the case anyway because the judge rules that the lyrics doesn't belong to the lyrics page, but to the song owner.

[0]: https://www.golem.de/news/vorwurf-von-genius-com-google-soll...

Re: Tesla has used space characters in internal emails to identify leaks

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Hello,

Guy who embedded Xbox 360 serial numbers into the Xbox 360 beta dashboard UI to identify leaked pics here - there was a big HN thread on it some years ago.

Just to point out, using extra spaces and different ascii space is basic steganography that's been used since WW1 and WW2. Elon brags about using spaces and other "Canary" techniques. Not super complicated

Elon appears to send emails in a fixed width HTML file in a lot of cases, which gives you some extra options with ascii characters on line breaks for steganography. Using a tool I wrote a decade + ago to find inserted line breaks in images - here was what I pulled out from a screenshot of Elon's email to employees from earlier today.

https://twitter.com/cullend/status/1593022922603786240/photo...

Re: Tesla has used space characters in internal emails to identify leaks

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Maybe he realizes that, and is just a jackass.

Where are the nice bosses of top tech companies? Maybe that's how you build a big tech company.

Were Larry and Sergey not considered nice?

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The pyramids were not built with slavery

how were they built?

"... labourers were recruited from farms, perhaps from a region much further down the Nile, near Luxor.

The labourers would have been enticed by the mix of high-quality food and the opportunity to work on such a prestigious project."

https://www.sciencefocus.com/science/were-the-egyptian-pyram...

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Counterpoint: open source software, of which there are many great works without anyone being forced or pressured into making it. There are many more ways of getting motivation than applying "some pressure". Indeed, people are inherently curious and motivated, but it can easily be suppressed by environmental factors. In particular "stick and carrot"-type reward systems. For a (much more) elaborate expansion on this, s…

All this musk-style motivation 101 BS is direct from the CIA's manual on domestic espionage - frustration from within. The means define the ends. If you treat people like shit, or as morons who need BS pressure techniques, you'll get a demoralised company. Treat people well, set them clear targets and say it without fluff when they're slacking. If you can't tell somebody they're not good enough, you cannot help them…

You are putting words in my mouth. Pressure can be as simple as a deadline.

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I love this story about Agloe, New York - a "copyright trap" that materialised into a real place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agloe,_New_York When another map maker put the actual settlement on their maps, the original publishers cried foul, but then discovered Agloe had become real!

Agloe anagram of legal

The 'l' was embarrassed and curled up into a ball.
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