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Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons

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The main reason I never stopped using Evernote is that somehow I got "stuck" on a personal plan that never really got updated for at least 7 years.

I live in a high inflation country and right now I'm paying the equivalent of 0.75usd/year.

There's has been several moments through the years that I planned to at least backup my notes to another service but thought: I am paying, so surely I won't lose my notes?

Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons

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post #214

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That minuscule subset is well designed, yes, the rest decent BUT some of them with in my opinion predatory pricing in many cases, $9/wk to download some wallpaper or some sleep noises app. But yes, they are not the only ones doing it. If you are interested search on the appstore among the boatload of apps they have.

Okay well you should be able to link to a single one then.. I still can't find any examples of how this company is fraudulent.

search “wallpapers” in the app store and try the top results: 1. 188k reviews, 4.99/week https://apps.apple.com/us/app/live-wallpapers-for-me/id10693... 2. 120k reviews, 4.99/week https://apps.apple.com/us/app/live-wallpapers-for-me/id10693... 3. 243k reviews, 4.99/week https://apps.apple.com/us/app/wallpapers-widgets-myscreen/id...

Tricking users into these high priced subscriptions is a tried and true strategy in the app store. The press caught on late (2018) but it was happening from the moment apple opened up subscriptions to all developers in June 2016. Started with crappy coloring book apps and then spread like wildfire from there. Bending Spoons is simply the evolution of that.

https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/15/sneaky-subscriptions-are-p...

Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons

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post #172

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None of what you wrote makes them sound like a "bad actor". All of these are good things for a failing business. Why shouldn't a photo editing app be $10/week? If you don't think you are getting that much value out of it then don't subscribe. Yet there is probably a group of power users who will gladly pay that amount. Evernote needs to be catering to them, not the millions of users who will endlessly complain but ne…

I see this complaint a lot and it never really made any sense to me. If something is a scam it has to do with the delivery or the advertisement of the product. But the pricing? No. It is not possible for the price of something by itself to render something a scam. If it costs too much it costs too much, this does not imply malfeasance on the part of the seller.

I agree - it’s about how the developer communicates (or in this case obfuscates) the price to the user. Check out the substack link and you’ll see screenshots of how Bending Spoons does it (it’s highly misleading).

Generally I’m of the opinion that consumers are responsible for their own choices; but Apple has allowed bad actors to exploit the availability of weekly subscriptions and prey on suspecting users.

Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons

#264

At long last, Evernote takes an Incredible Journey to be broken down for parts by its new owner. Can't get any more fucked up than it already has been, it went from being an important part of my daily workflow to a place of pain. The rewrite is part of why my last graphic novel ground to a halt, I was using EN to collaborate on scripts with my partner and it is just agony to use any more. I cancelled my subscription…

How did you feel about Dropbox Paper?

Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons

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post #261

The main reason I never stopped using Evernote is that somehow I got "stuck" on a personal plan that never really got updated for at least 7 years. I live in a high inflation country and right now I'm paying the equivalent of 0.75usd/year. There's has been several moments through the years that I planned to at least backup my notes to another service but thought: I am paying, so surely I won't lose my notes?

Hopefully you are backing them up now lol.

Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons

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post #134

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Disagree on #3. Social & collaborative features are the bane of my existence. No I don't want to share all my scraps of information, no I don't want to let my friends know what I'm listening to, no, I don't want to publish product purchases I make to twitter. I think a better #3 would be: decide whether your audience is individuals or businesses, then build for that.

"Collaborative editing" is table stakes for a modern note editor because even in a single user scenario you will have the same user editing the same note from multiple devices with different levels of connectivity. The product needs a reputation that it will not lose its user's edits, nor will it make annoying branch-style merge conflicts. To do this right you have to treat the other device as an almost-adversarial a…

Very good point, one which I admit didn't come to my mind initially.

Any recommendations for good methods or good open source implementations of this that can be mined for ideas?

Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons

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I used to be a huge fan of Evernote, but a few things made me look at other solutions. One issue is the capturing of code was automatically formatted and I was burned a few times keeping my code snippets for reference.

Been using Notion for a few years but I prefer the tree view and there's not many note apps that work well with this method.

Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons

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I really, really want to know what kind of person sees a pair of socks with a productivity app logo on them and thinks "I need these in my life."

I worked at a startup that gave “store credits” away as, try not to laugh, morale boosters so employees could buy company swag. It was pretty hilarious.

Same - pretty common in the direct sales/MLM world!

Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons

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post #125

They must be incredibly jealous of all the successful note taking apps (Notion, Ulysses, Bear, Craft). Evernote were first, and blew it. No other way to describe it. I dumped Evernote when they restricted their free accounts to 2 devices. Ironically I'm now paying for Ulysses, money I might have give to Evernote had they not been so awful to early adopters.

I just read a DHH blog on this that seems relevant because it mentions Notion:

> Same deal with Notion. They raised a $343M Series C on Oct 8, 2021 at $10 billion in valuation.

>These are all crazy numbers from a crazy time, and now the economic hangover is due.

https://world.hey.com/dhh/the-bubble-has-popped-for-unprofit...

Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons

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post #19

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I had a great workflow going on with Evernote and my ScanSnap. I'd scan mail and paperwork right away, and it'd be full text searchable in Evernote. Maybe once a week or so I'd go through the latest uploads and tag them or put them in folders. It took me a while to figure out an alternative for this because so many of the note tools I had seen were focused on just written notes and not the PDF file use case. I tried…

I'm curious why you moves from ScanSnap (which I use) to a Fujitsu. Just time for an upgrade, or do you prefer some newer feature(s)? I use my ScanSnap with OCR turned on and haven't had any problems, but I'm always looking for what will replace it when it finally died (still going strong at about 10 years or so, I think!).

I suppose to be precise, the new scanner is also a ScanSnap; the ScanSnap IX1600 (but ScanSnap is a Fujitsu brand name).

https://www.fujitsu.com/global/products/computing/peripheral...

I had been using the S1300M before that, which had held up since 2010 for me.

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