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Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

#12
There's only one conclusion: stay far away from google.

Don't use their products, as the possibility of having gmail cut off from you is a serious threat. Same for google voice and google cloud.

Don't publish apps for android - not at all if possible, or at least don't use the google store if you must deal with android, as the possibility of having your app that was A-OK for 5 years suddenly targeted like that is a serious threat too.

I'd add, don't ever work for google. There're not many jobs I would refuse to do, but having google as an employer is where I'd draw the line. It might be a lesser hell and easier for my conscience to work for a weapon manufacturer.

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

#13
At this point, why not just add the link to report your non-UGC. If this is what they want, give it to them. You can just ignore the reports on the backend. You can probably remove it next update when you don't get Anthony since it's pretty clear it's just one stubborn, lazy reviewer.

All that said - the Play Store and App Store review hell is one dystopia I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I'm so happy to work on the web now.

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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Is there any large group representing App developers that could manage the large-scale negotiation and legal wrangling required to force Apple and Google to be more helpful when rejecting legitimate applications?

When I worked in Google (Ads, then later in Recommendations for Play and youtube) people often said this was intention to avoid teaching spammers how to get around the rules. But it's clear there are enough legitimate developers acting in good faith who are trying to change their applications without significant guidance that it seems entirely reasonable for a large-scale group negotiation.

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

#15

It'd be great if google offered an option for a video call with a reviewer for $500/hr as an escalation option for businesses who are getting nowhere with the regular process. Ideally you'd get a refund if you turned out to be correct, but I'd be happy even without that.

Automated rules and policies are saving Google hundreds of millions of dollars an hour; they don't want to open the floodgates of spammers reverse-engineering ways to socially engineer the hapless app review humans.

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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post #14

Is there any large group representing App developers that could manage the large-scale negotiation and legal wrangling required to force Apple and Google to be more helpful when rejecting legitimate applications? When I worked in Google (Ads, then later in Recommendations for Play and youtube) people often said this was intention to avoid teaching spammers how to get around the rules. But it's clear there are enough…

A union for customers of monolithic tech companies who provide negligent support could be cool.

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

#18
post #12

There's only one conclusion: stay far away from google. Don't use their products, as the possibility of having gmail cut off from you is a serious threat. Same for google voice and google cloud. Don't publish apps for android - not at all if possible, or at least don't use the google store if you must deal with android, as the possibility of having your app that was A-OK for 5 years suddenly targeted like that is a s…

The problem is that Apple does the same kind of thing (arbitrary app store review by bots), so you're saying not to do any mobile apps.

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

#19
Legislation is clearly the only answer, assuming it is impractical for developers to band together in a union or other collective that would be large enough to harm Google's business or at least catch their eye. Contact your state and Federal representatives. Provide them with a copy of this transcript, and maybe attach a copy of your financial statement showing what's at stake.

Eiter way, whatever happens, these companies have brought it on themselves.

Re: Two weeks of dealing with Google as a developer

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post #8

This whole app store thing with Apple/Google is BS. Imagine if your car could only drive to locations approved as safe by the car manufacturer, and they could auto-ban your Grandma's house with no recourse.

It's more like if you could only drive approved cars on the regular roads.. which is already the case but regulated by the government instead.
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