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Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

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Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

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post #52

To be honest, I was a fan and explained away every offense he has made to date UNTIL he fired the Twitter Android app engineer publicly on Twitter. I felt that this engineer was engaging Elon about the problems at hand in a way that was admirable considering the circumstances. It was like the engineer knew he was falling on the sword, but at the same time was rational in his explanations of the current state of the a…

You were okay with him calling a stranger a "pedo guy"?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50695593

Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

#133

Yes. I also feel that a lot of people may be misunderstanding the motivation here. I think Musk is saying what he’s saying for a very specific simple reason. To weed out people who are just cruising along and being paid not doing much. I doubt he’ll continue pushing this narrative that much when he gets the desired result, getting back to a more reasonable typical startup execution mode. And I never was a fanboy, I j…

The old timers in mature code bases who spend 35 hours a week are far better for the organization than the driven hardcore out of college ambitious employees. I am certain that what happens after Elon is done dropping the former is an urge to do rewrites instead of learn the (often necessary) complexities of the existing systems, while in the meantime services get flaky and new working features come to a halt.

Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

#135
No. I don't mind long working hours. Its about dignity. The way he treated twitter engineers publicly is very disrespectful. I am deeply saddened. Now I wish he does not reach mars first. That would set a terrible culture on mars.

Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

#136
post #52

To be honest, I was a fan and explained away every offense he has made to date UNTIL he fired the Twitter Android app engineer publicly on Twitter. I felt that this engineer was engaging Elon about the problems at hand in a way that was admirable considering the circumstances. It was like the engineer knew he was falling on the sword, but at the same time was rational in his explanations of the current state of the a…

Spot on. You explained it perfectly how I feel about this.

Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

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post #39
post #20

I think I could not work with a boss I couldn't have a disagreement with. Just beeing a yes-man is not health for you, your boss and your work. Nobody knows everything better. Criticism is hard to learn.

I have 2 friends who work for Elon (in meetings with him regularly). You can disagree with the man. It’s allowed. You better be standing on solid ground through because the man is smart. Also, I cannot think of many bosses who you could publicly disagree with on Twitter where being fired isn’t a likely outcome.

Fair point. Elon seems to apply very different measures what counts as free speech though, depending on how much he likes it.

If my work was criticised by my boss in public with objectively (very) wrong statements, I would criticize him publicly as well (depending on the circumstances oc).

Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

#139
post #133

Yes. I also feel that a lot of people may be misunderstanding the motivation here. I think Musk is saying what he’s saying for a very specific simple reason. To weed out people who are just cruising along and being paid not doing much. I doubt he’ll continue pushing this narrative that much when he gets the desired result, getting back to a more reasonable typical startup execution mode. And I never was a fanboy, I j…

The old timers in mature code bases who spend 35 hours a week are far better for the organization than the driven hardcore out of college ambitious employees. I am certain that what happens after Elon is done dropping the former is an urge to do rewrites instead of learn the (often necessary) complexities of the existing systems, while in the meantime services get flaky and new working features come to a halt.

They are better if you want maintanance. They are worse if you want radical changes. I’ve seen it a lot of times myself, people like that actually create a lot of friction similarly to this fired Android guy, having a stake in the game of justifying existing status quo.

Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

#140
post #52

To be honest, I was a fan and explained away every offense he has made to date UNTIL he fired the Twitter Android app engineer publicly on Twitter. I felt that this engineer was engaging Elon about the problems at hand in a way that was admirable considering the circumstances. It was like the engineer knew he was falling on the sword, but at the same time was rational in his explanations of the current state of the a…

Elon publicly apologized that the android app was terrible, without naming anyone. Then this guy responded publicly calling out Elon. I don't know any CEO that would be cool with that. If Elon named him, sure, rip him apart. But Elon simply referenced the android app, and this guy took it personally in the worst way.

So in other words Elon is just like every other CEO in your estimation? Wasn't the whole point of the image Elon has been building that he's somehow different from everybody else? Then he reveals himself to just be the same old same old crap we've become accustomed to.
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