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Mom handcuffed, jailed for 8-year-old son walking half a mile

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Re: Mom handcuffed, jailed for 8-year-old son walking half a mile

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I don't know... the story as written does sound really bad. My similarly-aged kids walk about half a mile to school by themselves, as do dozens of other children that live in my neighborhood, and it would be crazy to arrest parents for this. But we're only hearing the mother's side of the story. The neighbor who called the cops, the actions of the police, it's possible they saw something that wasn't reported here. An…

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Re: Mom handcuffed, jailed for 8-year-old son walking half a mile

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Investigate, absolutely. The cops need to do that as well. However, as someone else pointed out "Child services had the family agree to a safety plan" is not investigating. That's taking action and making a threat: "if you don't agree to this we'll take you to court and let a judge sort it out at your expense."

When CPS is investigating abuse it seems completely reasonable for them to implement a safety plan to ensure ongoing abuse doesn't occur during the investigation. Far better than yanking the kids into protective custody.

When investigating a report of abuse, that's often reasonable.

When the report itself doesn't have any abuse in it, no way.

Re: Mom handcuffed, jailed for 8-year-old son walking half a mile

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This pisses me off. When I was 8, I walked several miles to where my mom worked after school let out. I wasn't the only kid who did this!

Right now, my neighborhood is a mile and a half from an elementary school. I see the kids that age walking to school.

There is ZERO reason for this to have happened.

I would sue the FUCK out of everyone who had a hand in this.

Re: Mom handcuffed, jailed for 8-year-old son walking half a mile

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Youtube keeps suggesting https://www.youtube.com/@AuditTheAudit to me. In many of the videos the officers just make up what they think the law is. Just a warning, more than a few of the videos on AuditTheAudit are infuriating due to the level of arrogance, incompetence, negligence, and abuse of authority displayed. But, it is nice that there is a way to air this dirty laundry in public. As GI Joe says, "Knowing is ha…

>As GI Joe says, "Knowing is half the battle". Not really disagreeing (and this really is a fantastic channel), but in wellness circles this is called the "GI Joe Fallacy"[1]. The idea being that knowing about something really is a tiny part of actually solving it. Most people are very aware of their problems, and simple awareness isn't very helpful. To put it in more startup-y terms, success comes from 1% ideas and…

In general I agree that execution is more than "just" half the battle. There's exceptions though, especially on the audience of HN, which includes a lot of knowledge workers.

For us, it often comes to "I spent 2 weeks investigating this issue, and at the end it was fixed by changing one line of code".

In this case execution was trivial, but knowing what to execute was the 99% part.

Re: Mom handcuffed, jailed for 8-year-old son walking half a mile

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When I was 4, I decided to visit my mom. I knew the general direction, so I went few kilometers along the road until some driver stopped and took me. It was not an ordinary situation, but not a big deal either.

I went to school at 7 and everyone including me walked the way (around kilometer) every day forth and back. Around this age I regularly took bus to visit my grandparents who lived on the other side of the city. I remember that I slept in the bus once and went off in an unknown area and spent next 3 hours walking around until I recognized the area and found a way back.

When I was 12, I hopped on train and went to another country to visit my father. I spent a week in the train. Of course my mom asked some guy who happened to be in my cabin to watch over me. He was drunk almost all the time with some random girl who stole his money in the end lol.

Not a big deal. People are too protective about their children nowadays. Children are pretty capable when they're not watched over all the time.

Re: Mom handcuffed, jailed for 8-year-old son walking half a mile

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I live in a vast Californian suburb dominated by single family residences built in the 90s. The homes are priced around the median for the area. The residents are split about 50/50 politically and racially plural. The majority are married and earn ever so slightly below median income. It's about as average as you can get. Note: I looked up these stats to make sure I got them right. They are mostly at the voting preci…

Move to a sane state. I live in the midwest, in a smaller town. You still see kids playing in the neighborhood and parks and running around. Kids walk and bike to school. Nobody would call the cops over a kid walking by himself unless he looked to be lost or in distress.

Sorry, but my life is more complicated than "move to a sane state." I would have to put a child of mine into an abusive household and subject myself to fewer legal protections because if who I am. It's ok to live somewhere and observe and critique it. I'm a multifaceted individual whose writings on a very narrow topic cannot be reduced to "move." Thank you for sharing your experience though.

Re: Mom handcuffed, jailed for 8-year-old son walking half a mile

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Of the high school and jr high kids I know, for most of them their life is on their phone. It doesn't cover that age group but I thought this graph was pretty interesting: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1310218/time-spent-using... Generally the younger you are the more likely you are to be a heavy user of your phone. There is no data for it but I would expect that high school and jr high kids are probably even h…

Because what else there's left to do? Getting your family arrested for playing in the front yard or walking to your friend or hanging in a parking lot? So we destroyed all fun activities then we're still complaining they don't do any fun activities?

Yeah no shit. There are numerous videos on Instagram of teens literally being physically assaulted by 50-70 year old "adults" for skateboarding.

Re: Mom handcuffed, jailed for 8-year-old son walking half a mile

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It's not at all the fault of the nosy neighbor. The neighbor made a bad choice, but could plausibly have been motivated by good intentions. A young child walking alone may seem a cause for concern, and, perhaps all the neighbor wanted was to make sure the child was safe. I certainly see no evidence that the neighbor acted maliciously - some people are just legitimately unaware that the police are frequently comically…

An 8 year old walking home, half a mile, confronted by the neighbor on the kids own street and the kid stated where they were going when the neighbor asked. They called the cops AFTER that. Per the article.

Does the neighbor not like them and spied an opportunity to mess with them?
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