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Where are the nice bosses of top tech companies? Maybe that's how you build a big tech company.

I think there is a middle area between being a "nice boss" and being a boss who calls out internal engineering implementation concerns (rightly or not) on Twitter. And then fire people who disagree in a response.

Well, Gates is an asshole, Jobs was an asshole - where's the middleground? Maybe niceness leads to [business] mediocrity.

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To produce great work you also need some pressure. Otherwise people will get real lazy very quickly.

Counterpoint: open source software, of which there are many great works without anyone being forced or pressured into making it. There are many more ways of getting motivation than applying "some pressure". Indeed, people are inherently curious and motivated, but it can easily be suppressed by environmental factors. In particular "stick and carrot"-type reward systems. For a (much more) elaborate expansion on this, s…

The vast majority of open source done in peoples free time is unfinished and at best of limited use. The serious projects very often have payed developers. The good ones done by unpaid developers have some pressure in terms of expectations by their community or the developers put pressure on themselves to achieve some self goal.

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Years ago, I worked at a place that attempted this. They were so giddy about it. There wasn’t even a known leak, or, arguably, anything particularly worth leaking. They were just tickled by the idea that they could gotcha anyone who tried to leak something. Then, as now, it strikes me as little more than sad and paranoid Tom Clancy cosplay. I’d like to say I’ve moved on to a place with a culture of trust and faithful…

Indeed. For example, Musk fancies himself a champion of "hard work" but what he fails to realize is that humans have not actually merged with robots yet, and we still have human needs. If innovation and brilliant thinking are part of your brand, you actually get higher quality work, sustained over a longer period of time, if you actually back off on the whip-cracking and just give people what they need to produce gre…

I suspect the world's wealthiest man knows how to grow a business better than either of us.

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Indeed. For example, Musk fancies himself a champion of "hard work" but what he fails to realize is that humans have not actually merged with robots yet, and we still have human needs. If innovation and brilliant thinking are part of your brand, you actually get higher quality work, sustained over a longer period of time, if you actually back off on the whip-cracking and just give people what they need to produce gre…

To produce great work you also need some pressure. Otherwise people will get real lazy very quickly.

Exactly, which is why I am advocating precisely for giving people what they need. Some people need pressure to perform optimally, others don't. Some people need to put in 80 hours of work per week, others don't. It is simple and humane to approach it this way.

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I love this story about Agloe, New York - a "copyright trap" that materialised into a real place: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agloe,_New_York When another map maker put the actual settlement on their maps, the original publishers cried foul, but then discovered Agloe had become real!

Agloe anagram of legal

Actually, I think it was the initials of the original publishers

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I worked with someone who would tell me very precise weird personal details (eg, “the left side of my mouth can’t taste”). I found it odd because they weren’t really pertinent and seemed really unique that I’ve never heard of anyone else with the condition. I suspected he did this to try to determine who they can trust when he would remark that people were liars or not trustworthy and one time a coworker told me a co…

So was he like ... hey bud, don't tell anyone this, but ... "the left side of my mouth can't taste" Because I can't figure out how this would be helpful in any other context.

He never said not to tell anyone but he brought up several such details while we were working together. The information wasn’t really helpful for anything in that it wasn’t relevant to our work (making software).

I never revealed the info because it was said in confidence. But we weren’t really that close so it stood out to me.

My example was made up but the actual factoids were about medical issues and bodily functions. It wasn’t creepy or anything just not something I would want widely known.

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I worked with someone who would tell me very precise weird personal details (eg, “the left side of my mouth can’t taste”). I found it odd because they weren’t really pertinent and seemed really unique that I’ve never heard of anyone else with the condition. I suspected he did this to try to determine who they can trust when he would remark that people were liars or not trustworthy and one time a coworker told me a co…

That sounds like a terrible workplace in general.

Nothing is perfect and there were trade offs. This person was really smart so the stuff we made was interesting. I wouldn’t want to work in that org again but I’d gladly work with that individual.

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I wonder about this stuff and expect they could also just look for a file of that exact size in bytes on work PCs or cloud storage. I think anyone who wants to write potentially career limiting things should exercise basic common sense like not using work computers and printers, removing fingerprinting elements, etc. In the future I expect more to do stuff like cut and paste between programs to alter the font and spa…

Because we all know just how great those whistleblower laws protect people right? Right?

Whistleblower laws don't work out so well for those who threaten to blow the whistle as a negotiating tactic.

It's not retaliation if they fire you before you make the disclosure...

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Years ago, I worked at a place that attempted this. They were so giddy about it. There wasn’t even a known leak, or, arguably, anything particularly worth leaking. They were just tickled by the idea that they could gotcha anyone who tried to leak something. Then, as now, it strikes me as little more than sad and paranoid Tom Clancy cosplay. I’d like to say I’ve moved on to a place with a culture of trust and faithful…

Indeed. For example, Musk fancies himself a champion of "hard work" but what he fails to realize is that humans have not actually merged with robots yet, and we still have human needs. If innovation and brilliant thinking are part of your brand, you actually get higher quality work, sustained over a longer period of time, if you actually back off on the whip-cracking and just give people what they need to produce gre…

>For example, Musk fancies himself a champion of "hard work"

And Musk is the perfect example of "do as I say, not as I do", as he sends teams into a death march of insane hours, wherever he is, while he's shitposting on Twitter from his multi million dollar house paid for by company funds and pretending he's doing 120 hour work weeks

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Tyrions plot has a flaw in that it’s three versions of the same story. If two or three betray him, he won’t know and he’ll reveal to the queen that something is afoot. He should have used different stories.

He did use different stories, he tells each one something different.

If Pycelle tells Cersei Dorne and Varys says Greyjoy and Littlefinger says Vale then that’s a problem as Cersei won’t act on the information.

It also might make her suspect misinformation as there are three different values coming to her at once and she’ll have to deduce what’s more likely that all three informants are lying, or misunderstand, or Tyrion fed them bad info.

Much more likely to have three independent stories so that the traitors will be revealed even if there are multiples.

In the current scenario, if Varys and Littlefinger snitch then Tyrion won’t know because Cersei will hear Greyjoy and Vale and not reveal what she knows to Tyrion because it conflicts as Myrcella can’t be married to two different groups.

The better scenario would be something like “Myrcella marries Dorne to Pycelle; 1,000 ships sent to Westeros to Varys; I’m appointing Jaime as lord of casterly rock” then each betrayal could be known.

If Varys and Littlefinger snitch in this scenario Cersei will look into ships and casterly rock and reveal the betrayers to Tyrion.

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