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Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons
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Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons
#142They must be incredibly jealous of all the successful note taking apps (Notion, Ulysses, Bear, Craft). Evernote were first, and blew it. No other way to describe it. I dumped Evernote when they restricted their free accounts to 2 devices. Ironically I'm now paying for Ulysses, money I might have give to Evernote had they not been so awful to early adopters.
Actually, their experience is pretty pleasant and the product works very well after they have rebuilt their apps. They don’t need to be jealous. Their relative utilitarian take on the matter is what makes them so unique and powerful in the market. Yes, I love markdown, and Evernote just provides a slightly more powerful, WYSIWYG version of it. I neither want “everything and the kitchen sink” vision of Notion, and des…
A "Relative utilitarian take" is not how it would describe a product that tried to incorporate an entire chat app into it.
They had a relatively good product around v5X series and I left because they just started to fragment and add more and more non-notetaking related things at the expense of the entire product stability and core functionality.
Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons
#143They must be incredibly jealous of all the successful note taking apps (Notion, Ulysses, Bear, Craft). Evernote were first, and blew it. No other way to describe it. I dumped Evernote when they restricted their free accounts to 2 devices. Ironically I'm now paying for Ulysses, money I might have give to Evernote had they not been so awful to early adopters.
It's impossible to not "blow it" in the environment Evernote operated in. The default model for software startups was to leverage yourself to the hilt so can achieve some fantasy growth expectation VCs had for you. The growth requirements overextended the realities of a note taking app and so the product gets bloated in a desperate grasping for growth of any kind and the user gets pinched for every fee that can be forced on them.
Hopefully recent economic events will change the culture and more companies will actually factor in reality into their growth models.
Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
I use Apple Notes because I realized that, for my needs, all the structure and organization that so many other note taking apps/services provide really just make things more complicated and isn't beneficial. Notes is simple, has one level of folders, and supports labeling. I'll almost never look at 95% of my notes again, but in case I do, I can just search by keyword and usually I'll find it. My one gripe with Notes…
The lack of export functionality without a Mac kept me from using it. edit: HN won't let me reply so... That sure is a lot of trouble just to grab a copy of my notes. This is something I do often enough that I don't want to have to go through two MFA prompts, and then another when the process is done. Not acceptable.
FYI, HN probably does let you reply (unless you’ve tripped the rate limit, but in that case it won’t let you edit, either), it’s just that in deep threads you need to either wait a bit or do it from the comment’s page[1].
[1] https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-undocumented/blob/m...
Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons
#145They must be incredibly jealous of all the successful note taking apps (Notion, Ulysses, Bear, Craft). Evernote were first, and blew it. No other way to describe it. I dumped Evernote when they restricted their free accounts to 2 devices. Ironically I'm now paying for Ulysses, money I might have give to Evernote had they not been so awful to early adopters.
It's impossible to not "blow it" in the environment Evernote operated in. The default model for software startups was to leverage yourself to the hilt so can achieve some fantasy growth expectation VCs had for you. The growth requirements overextended the realities of a note taking app and so the product gets bloated in a desperate grasping for growth of any kind and the user gets pinched for every fee that can be fo…
What does leverage mean here?
Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
I use Apple Notes because I realized that, for my needs, all the structure and organization that so many other note taking apps/services provide really just make things more complicated and isn't beneficial. Notes is simple, has one level of folders, and supports labeling. I'll almost never look at 95% of my notes again, but in case I do, I can just search by keyword and usually I'll find it. My one gripe with Notes…
The lack of export functionality without a Mac kept me from using it. edit: HN won't let me reply so... That sure is a lot of trouble just to grab a copy of my notes. This is something I do often enough that I don't want to have to go through two MFA prompts, and then another when the process is done. Not acceptable.
Like most apple software, it only considers users who are totally bought into the ecosystem. I hardly know what you mean, "grab a copy of my notes", all my notes are copied to all my devices, as long as those devices run Apple Notes ;)
Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons
#147They must be incredibly jealous of all the successful note taking apps (Notion, Ulysses, Bear, Craft). Evernote were first, and blew it. No other way to describe it. I dumped Evernote when they restricted their free accounts to 2 devices. Ironically I'm now paying for Ulysses, money I might have give to Evernote had they not been so awful to early adopters.
> They must be incredibly jealous of all the successful note taking apps (Notion, Ulysses, Bear, Craft).
One point of anecdata: I haven't heard of any of those.
How do you define success?
Keep in mind Evernote was created in 2000 and the web version was launched in 2008.
I doubt any of the stuff in your list will be around in 14 years.
Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's impossible to not "blow it" in the environment Evernote operated in. The default model for software startups was to leverage yourself to the hilt so can achieve some fantasy growth expectation VCs had for you. The growth requirements overextended the realities of a note taking app and so the product gets bloated in a desperate grasping for growth of any kind and the user gets pinched for every fee that can be fo…
What does leverage mean here?
Debt.
Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons
#149They must be incredibly jealous of all the successful note taking apps (Notion, Ulysses, Bear, Craft). Evernote were first, and blew it. No other way to describe it. I dumped Evernote when they restricted their free accounts to 2 devices. Ironically I'm now paying for Ulysses, money I might have give to Evernote had they not been so awful to early adopters.
> They must be incredibly jealous of all the successful note taking apps (Notion, Ulysses, Bear, Craft). One point of anecdata: I haven't heard of any of those. How do you define success? Keep in mind Evernote was created in 2000 and the web version was launched in 2008. I doubt any of the stuff in your list will be around in 14 years.
Bear was Apple’s number one app for 2016 - it’s Mac/iOS only.
Re: Evernote to be acquired by Bending Spoons
#150They must be incredibly jealous of all the successful note taking apps (Notion, Ulysses, Bear, Craft). Evernote were first, and blew it. No other way to describe it. I dumped Evernote when they restricted their free accounts to 2 devices. Ironically I'm now paying for Ulysses, money I might have give to Evernote had they not been so awful to early adopters.
Honestly, the goal with a free account should be to convert users into paying users or by making the platform more useful for paying users of the service.
If you cancel an account that didn't pay them any money, what exactly did they lose?
I pay for todoist because I love using it and the free account doesn't have a must-have feature (reminders). I could dump them and find something else, but I get plenty of value for the money I spend with them.