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Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

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Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by pavlov »

tdehnel wrote: post #39
emaro wrote: post #20

I think I could not work with a boss I couldn't have a disagreement with. Just beeing a yes-man is not health for you, your boss and your work. Nobody knows everything better. Criticism is hard to learn.

I have 2 friends who work for Elon (in meetings with him regularly). You can disagree with the man. It’s allowed. You better be standing on solid ground through because the man is smart. Also, I cannot think of many bosses who you could publicly disagree with on Twitter where being fired isn’t a likely outcome.

I also can't think of many bosses who would publicly disparage your work on Twitter to pressure you to work longer hours.

Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by wombat-man »

Speaking more to the twitter situation.

Hard to say what's really happening inside. But assuming nobody is being needlessly abrasive with him, if he's really firing people for questioning his asks or correcting wrong assumptions he's made then that feels risky. That plus a sudden transition to long hours. I'm willing to go to bat if the chips are down, but the idea of working 60, 70 hour or more weeks to entertain asks that haven't been thought through sounds really stressful. I've been in a situation like that where we were driving to add features that were removed the next week/month and it sucks.

If I were currently at Twitter, I don't know that I would take the severance. If I were job hunting, they probably wouldn't be high on the list.

Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by tdehnel »

wolrah wrote: post #42
jason-phillips wrote: post #9

> gaslight That's a loaded term, used at the outset to poison the well, so to speak, so one has to question whether the question was asked in good faith and therefore would answering be worth the trouble.

When a person does bad things and then is accurately described as having done those bad things it's not poisoning the well, it's putting up a sign saying "this well was poisoned".

Can you state any good things about working for Elon? Or are the 1000s who do all idiots drinking poisoned water?

Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by tdehnel »

pavlov wrote: post #61
tdehnel wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have 2 friends who work for Elon (in meetings with him regularly). You can disagree with the man. It’s allowed. You better be standing on solid ground through because the man is smart. Also, I cannot think of many bosses who you could publicly disagree with on Twitter where being fired isn’t a likely outcome.

I also can't think of many bosses who would publicly disparage your work on Twitter to pressure you to work longer hours.

Those are the conditions though. Your options are to work for him or not. What else are you going to do? Complain about it on HN? For what?

Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by the_only_law »

tdehnel wrote: post #39
emaro wrote: post #20

I think I could not work with a boss I couldn't have a disagreement with. Just beeing a yes-man is not health for you, your boss and your work. Nobody knows everything better. Criticism is hard to learn.

I have 2 friends who work for Elon (in meetings with him regularly). You can disagree with the man. It’s allowed. You better be standing on solid ground through because the man is smart. Also, I cannot think of many bosses who you could publicly disagree with on Twitter where being fired isn’t a likely outcome.

> You better be standing on solid ground through because the man is smart.

You act as if this makes him some untouchable gods. Recent events should have made it very clear that “smart” people can act like bigger idiots than your average idiot.

Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by Workaccount2 »

bentt wrote: post #52

To be honest, I was a fan and explained away every offense he has made to date UNTIL he fired the Twitter Android app engineer publicly on Twitter. I felt that this engineer was engaging Elon about the problems at hand in a way that was admirable considering the circumstances. It was like the engineer knew he was falling on the sword, but at the same time was rational in his explanations of the current state of the a…

Elon publicly apologized that the android app was terrible, without naming anyone. Then this guy responded publicly calling out Elon.

I don't know any CEO that would be cool with that. If Elon named him, sure, rip him apart. But Elon simply referenced the android app, and this guy took it personally in the worst way.

Re: Poll: Would You Work for Elon?

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Post by PestoDiRucola »

viraptor wrote: post #12

Today, no way. Maybe 2 decades ago when I was a teenager and valued money way more. But regardless of his business outcomes, I'm not going to ever work for a manchild throwing public tantrums, who can't be criticised for valid reasons. His decision making process of throwing stuff and seeing what sticks is also something I don't want to deal with every day at work. Life's too short to be a dictator's puppet.

> Maybe 2 decades ago when I was a teenager and valued money way more.

Even then it would not be a good idea to work for any of Musk's companies. The engineers that work there are notoriously paid little compared to industry standards.

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