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Hurr durr Elon bad all you want, getting fired for telling your boss to ‘kiss my ass’ is not cancel culture and neither is continuing to host that message.
It's literally exactly what the right, and the rest of the twitter free speechistas, consider cancel culture.
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According to some people here you're just supposed to take it when your boss shits on your work and firing you for any push back at all is entirely justified.
No, you don’t have to “take it”. You could always just resign…and then comment on Twitter and frankly everywhere else about how wrong and how much of an asshole that Elon was yada yada yada…but I wam not exactly sure in which parallel universe people live in to think that publicly calling out your boss (who is known to be a little quick on the trigger already) should have zero consequences to you. Pretty much seems t…
but then if you don't try to push for anything at work (aka doing anything more than what's expected of your role) that's quiet quitting
you just can't win
also elon musk owned twitter for like 3 weeks how the hell was that guy supposed to know that as a mere mortal you're supposed to just let elon musk shit on your work and ruin your reputation in public then fire you anyway after you stay silent
if every choice makes you bad then it's at least nice to get fired publicly so you can line up a new job in replies to the tweet that got you fired
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No, you don’t have to “take it”. You could always just resign…and then comment on Twitter and frankly everywhere else about how wrong and how much of an asshole that Elon was yada yada yada…but I wam not exactly sure in which parallel universe people live in to think that publicly calling out your boss (who is known to be a little quick on the trigger already) should have zero consequences to you. Pretty much seems t…
dude that's just "taking it" - either you lick the boots of your boss or you resign but then if you don't try to push for anything at work (aka doing anything more than what's expected of your role) that's quiet quitting you just can't win also elon musk owned twitter for like 3 weeks how the hell was that guy supposed to know that as a mere mortal you're supposed to just let elon musk shit on your work and ruin your…
Those employees don’t get to take their contribution out of the source when they leave—so while they might feel a sense of ownership, their contributions belong to Elon the minute they transfer them from their brain to the company property they are using.
I am pretty confident that publicly criticizing your boss and getting fired might appeal to a lot of folks on HN, but it’s not going to be looked at very favorably by most hiring managers out there.
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dude that's just "taking it" - either you lick the boots of your boss or you resign but then if you don't try to push for anything at work (aka doing anything more than what's expected of your role) that's quiet quitting you just can't win also elon musk owned twitter for like 3 weeks how the hell was that guy supposed to know that as a mere mortal you're supposed to just let elon musk shit on your work and ruin your…
It may be hard to swallow but it’s not “your work”, it’s his work. He paid a shit ton of money to call it his and if he wants to shit on what he owns, so be it, it’s his. He paid for the privilege. Those employees don’t get to take their contribution out of the source when they leave—so while they might feel a sense of ownership, their contributions belong to Elon the minute they transfer them from their brain to the…
if the "boss is always right or quit" thing is right then wouldn't hiring managers also have a problem if your boss publicly insults your work? you're doomed either way, self-defense or not! but so far what you're saying does not seem to hold true - replies to fired engineers are full of kindness and job offers.
I'm surprised at the number of people defending Elon here, how would you feel if your CEO literally shit on your work in public to millions of people and not only that was completely totally wrong about it. Like I'm not surprised that they got fired because Elon behaves like a toddler but god damn if your response isn't to salute two people who got axed for speaking the truth then you have your priorities ass backwar…
Forums like this one are made up of a large number of temporarily embarrassed tech billionaires. It's no surprise that they think Musk's behavior is okay. They fantasize about doing the same to their own employees one day.
I have a question. A person of such incompetence could have achieved such great success, how is that possible? In addition to being technically incompetent, he seems to be incompetent when it comes to managing people and running a business.
Elon is not entirely marketing dude but also not really technically skilled. He is on a different dimension.
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It may be hard to swallow but it’s not “your work”, it’s his work. He paid a shit ton of money to call it his and if he wants to shit on what he owns, so be it, it’s his. He paid for the privilege. Those employees don’t get to take their contribution out of the source when they leave—so while they might feel a sense of ownership, their contributions belong to Elon the minute they transfer them from their brain to the…
"your work" as in work that you did, not work that you own. a picasso painting is still a picasso painting even in a private collection. if your next line is "coding is just work and not art" then please tone down the capitalism. if the "boss is always right or quit" thing is right then wouldn't hiring managers also have a problem if your boss publicly insults your work? you're doomed either way, self-defense or not!…
First, I made no such claim about coding, work, art, capitalism, or otherwise so lets not try and put words into my mouth that was never said, or even implied.
Second, if you are an artist and someone has paid and is continuing to pay you to generate more art…if you cannot handle their criticism (valid or not) of that art, you have the choice to leave and go elsewhere to create art on your own, or find another benefactor that appreciates you.
My criticism is not of these two engineers, they did what they did and I frankly don’t care. Their actions resulted in an obvious and expected consequence that would have happened anywhere and for any other boss. My criticism is for the people here on HN who feel that they should not have been fired. That is frankly ridiculous.
The context here is that the engineer in question challenged Musk's (public) claims about why Twitter is so slow (there's followup tweets in the thread with more detail): https://twitter.com/EricFrohnhoefer/status/15919022854034186... So Musk then fired him with a Tweet: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592186302379982849
Hope the thread is archived somewhere, because these tweets aren't going to stay up for very long. The "free speech absolutist" will see to that.
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It's literally exactly what the right, and the rest of the twitter free speechistas, consider cancel culture.
I’m not about to debate a troll on the straw man of what ‘the right’ meanies consider cancel culture.