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Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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Building and selling macOS apps is a pretty good niche to be in right now. I escaped my stressful corporate job 1 year ago and I’ve been living comfortably since then from app revenue only. I’m making between $3.5k and $9k per month with https://lunar.fyi/ and the smaller apps I create at https://lowtechguys.com/ It’s not much for some parts of the world. But I’m well enough from this that I even took the time to bui…

Thanks for Lunar, I have been using it b/c the native apple software wouldn't let me adjust light on my external monitor properly. Also, I love the secret, extra brightness levels it allows on the main screen, especially when I am outside. Do you know if there is any risk of damage to the brightness by using it at the higher settings? I once had software that me increase the volume of my macbook speakers and one day…

Thank you! :)

About XDR, I have an FAQ about its safety here: https://lunar.fyi/faq#xdr-safe

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never worked in the corporate world as an employee, but I've worked long-term contracts as a freelancer with both Corporations large and small, and also large-ish non-profits. My take-way: I'd take the corporate world over the non-profits any day of the week. The office politics level was so high that you'd quickly see it and its effects even when you only had like five in-person meetings and a few phone calls.…

Yeah, I guess with any sort of organisation, corporate, academic, non-profit or otherwise, there's a tonne of variety. I've mainly been a non-profit boy, some have been great, others a completely shit-show. I'm European, and the scene here's very different to the US. YMMV. I guess my thought here in my original reply was that one thing they can offer over corporates are cool problems to work on. I've got a lot of fri…

I'm in Europe, too, Germany to be exact. I believe the issues you get with larger organizations turning into self-sustaining bureaucracies are probably global, Peter and Hull were on to something. I hope your gig stays the way you like it!

Working in OSINT sounds like fun, is the scene large enough for your friends to do that professionally, or are they essentially volunteering?

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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Building and selling macOS apps is a pretty good niche to be in right now. I escaped my stressful corporate job 1 year ago and I’ve been living comfortably since then from app revenue only. I’m making between $3.5k and $9k per month with https://lunar.fyi/ and the smaller apps I create at https://lowtechguys.com/ It’s not much for some parts of the world. But I’m well enough from this that I even took the time to bui…

Thanks for sharing! Have you considered selling your Apps outside the AppStore? Would it be worth it?

Lunar, my best selling app, is outside the App Store. But I had to do 2 to 4 months more work to replicate what App Store is doing. See my more detailed comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33621601

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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Academia is an option. I was in a similar situation to you early on in my career and decided I wasn't happy in industry, and decided to enroll in grad school. I ended up teaching for a couple of years and found that I really enjoyed it. And the kind of work you do on research projects is very different from that of the corporate world - you can focus on longer-term things with less immediate results, the work itself can be super interesting, and there are always lots of interesting people around in a university environment.

Academia has its downsides however - the job market is brutally competitive, it can be very hard to get research funding, and you can spend a lot of your time writing grant applications. There's also admin duties to take on which can eat up more time. It also has bureaucracy and since it's an institution comprised of people, is not immune from many of the interpersonal conflicts that occur in the corporate world.

I'm speaking from the Australian perspective here, but in my country the universities also decided to sell out and take in lots of international students who have $$$ but lack sufficient background knowledge and motivation, and lecturers are forced by the universities to let students pass who haven't demonstrated sufficient competency. I was asked to change marks on a course to reflect the number of students who the university wanted to pass, not how many were actually worthy of it, which I felt was unethical. Because of all these issues I decided academia wasn't for me so as soon as I had my PhD I got out. I still miss the actual core teaching part though, as it's one of the most enjoyable things I've done.

So I ended back in industry where I'm back to building software, but in a role that lets me use what I learnt in grad school and is thus more interesting than just building basic web/CRUD apps. Not all companies are bad, and I've been lucky enough to find an employer where the bureaucracy is minimal and my manager makes sure I'm pretty well isolated from the things which get in the way of actual work. There are good companies out there, but it takes a certain amount of luck to end up in one with a healthy culture.

One other piece of advice I have is that if you're from a rich western country, move to somewhere with a lower cost of living and work remotely. I relocated from Australia to Thailand and it approximately quadrupled my spending power. This gave me the freedom to be able to take time off from my job more often to do other things like work on hobby projects, and while I don't currently take advantage of this freedom much it's nice to know its there. Depending on who you're working for, you might be able to negotiate a part time gig, or if contracting do six months on, six months off or something like that.

Oh, and on going it alone and trying to be an indie dev: this can be super tough if you don't have good business and marketing skills. I tried this and failed. Others have made it work, but it's definitely not easy.

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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Building and selling macOS apps is a pretty good niche to be in right now. I escaped my stressful corporate job 1 year ago and I’ve been living comfortably since then from app revenue only. I’m making between $3.5k and $9k per month with https://lunar.fyi/ and the smaller apps I create at https://lowtechguys.com/ It’s not much for some parts of the world. But I’m well enough from this that I even took the time to bui…

Lunar looks like it's quite extensive. (And the website looks great!) How much work have you put into it, over what period, if you don't mind me asking?

Thanks for the kind words!

I’d say I had a year of full time work (on and off in 3 years of time) until I had Lunar 3 which was the most stable until Apple Silicon arrived: https://github.com/alin23/lunar/tree/lunar3

I had accumulated about $5k in donations over those years which allowed me to quit my job, do 6 months of full time work in 3 months of time, and launch Lunar 4 with support for Apple Silicon: https://alinpanaitiu.com/blog/journey-to-ddc-on-m1-macs/

After that, the hard work started because now I had paying users asking for a stable app that was very Hardware dependent on a completely new macOS architecture. 9 more months of full time work followed.

Right now it’s finally quiet. I do about a bug fix and small feature release per month and I have plenty of time to work on my other apps.

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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For the most part, if you can make money for other people, you can use that skill set for yourself. Also, if you're somewhere where it's legal or at least accessible, it's not actually 100% true that at a casino the house always wins. It will take a little bit of effort to get started and you do need a small bit of infrastructure (but a cheap VPS or a SoC would actually do, depending on what you focus on), but it's n…

I've always been curious about building a sports betting process / model as a hobby. Any suggested reading?

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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post #25

Building and selling macOS apps is a pretty good niche to be in right now. I escaped my stressful corporate job 1 year ago and I’ve been living comfortably since then from app revenue only. I’m making between $3.5k and $9k per month with https://lunar.fyi/ and the smaller apps I create at https://lowtechguys.com/ It’s not much for some parts of the world. But I’m well enough from this that I even took the time to bui…

It’s a fun niche. I’m making tens of dollars a month on my first app: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/audiowrangler/id1565701763?mt=... :)

I also made tens of dollars a month with https://lowtechguys.com/rcmd for the first few months ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The good thing is that usually you just keep growing from this. Now it’s making $1k per month, mostly because of sharing it with the world and implementing recurrent annoyances shared by users.

It’s important to have a way for users to contact you. I love Formspark.io for that, just slap a contact form on the app website and emails will start coming.

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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Building and selling macOS apps is a pretty good niche to be in right now. I escaped my stressful corporate job 1 year ago and I’ve been living comfortably since then from app revenue only. I’m making between $3.5k and $9k per month with https://lunar.fyi/ and the smaller apps I create at https://lowtechguys.com/ It’s not much for some parts of the world. But I’m well enough from this that I even took the time to bui…

That’s quite interesting. Thanks for sharing. How did you go about marketing your apps and attracting customers/installs?

My secret is f5bot.com ^_^

I’m notified when keywords related to “human wants thing, my app can do thing” appear on HN, Reddit and Lobsters.

If I can then contribute with information to that discussion, I’ll also leave a link to my app.

Don’t just self plug, people (myself included) appreciate more detailed information on how they can solve their own personal problem, instead of being thrown into “here’s an app, figure it out”

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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Academia is an option. I was in a similar situation to you early on in my career and decided I wasn't happy in industry, and decided to enroll in grad school. I ended up teaching for a couple of years and found that I really enjoyed it. And the kind of work you do on research projects is very different from that of the corporate world - you can focus on longer-term things with less immediate results, the work itself…

IME academia as a job truly sucked, but now that I get my money elsewhere, academia as a hobby is an awesome thing(!) and helps me keep a balanced mind.

Re: Ask HN: Alternative ways to make money with coding and system skills?

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Thanks for those two links. I'm in the exact same place as the OP, and would love to start something of my own, but I have only technical skills, meaning all my startup ideas are for devs, a domain that's absolutely saturated. In the best case, I would pair with someone who is a "nerd" of a different domain, but somehow I find it rather difficult to meet such people. In case you (or anyone else) know of similar progr…

Meetup is still a good source for making lots of surface-level connections, here's a quick search I did: https://www.meetup.com/find/?keywords=startup&source=EVENTS&... edit: You'll probably have more success, as I don't know the German terminology for things like 'startup' - Geschaeftsaufstellung?

Nah it's still startup, just capitalized like any other noun.
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