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Re: Monica: Open-source personal relationship manager

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Post by tomcam »

nico wrote: post #28
kapep wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's mentioned on their blog: https://www.monicahq.com/blog/a-new-version-is-coming > [...] Monica is an old code base now. Old in the sense that it’s 7 years old and it has been touched by hundred of contributors. There are some concepts in the code that we let through, because we either didn’t know any better back then or because we didn’t want to piss off contributors, that we don’t want anymore. The project has w…

Every re-write I’ve ever seen or been a part of, has either failed or taken way longer and a lot more effort than initially projected. Changing something is definitely not riskier, especially if you have tests and real users who are actively providing feedback as well as showing the edge cases. You can also focus on changing only the things that need changing, instead of having to redo everything just to change some…

They’re doing it for fun.

Re: Monica: Open-source personal relationship manager

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Post by ajvs »

robinhood wrote: post #37

Author of Monica/Chandler here. Thanks for posting this. As others have pointed out, we are rewriting Monica from scratch, codename Chandler: https://github.com/monicahq/chandler We've also written OfficeLife, an open source tool to manage your employees: https://github.com/officelifehq/officelife , yet to be released. I think we have too many ideas and side projects :-)

Why's it being rewritten? Looks like it's still PHP as well.

Re: Monica: Open-source personal relationship manager

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Post by ribs »

CharlesW wrote: post #40
CharlesW wrote: post #5

I'm not sure why I would need this, especially now that I can codify my personal relationships in iOS and Android. https://www.pcworld.com/article/430990/how-to-teach-contact-...

For anyone taking this the wrong way, I'll frame it differently: My OS has my structured and unstructured contact data (including their relationships with me and to each other), a way to attach contacts to calendar events and notes, and a standard API that apps can use (at my discretion) to access that data. How does Monica use/improve on that?

Monica seems like a pretty pedestrian contact management app to me. I’m struggling to see what’s impressive about it over, as you say, my iPhone, or, say, Notion.

Re: Monica: Open-source personal relationship manager

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TylerE wrote: post #52
pwdisswordfish9 wrote: post #51

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I usually despise comments that point out that two pieces of (almost always unrelated) software share the same (or a similar) name. That doesn't apply in this case— Chandler has not only already been used for another piece of software, it has been used for something in what is roughly the same space. The other Chandler was discontinued >10 years ago, but I had to double check and triple check to suss out whether or n…

wooosh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends#Cast_and_characters

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Re: Monica: Open-source personal relationship manager

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Post by pwdisswordfish9 »

TylerE wrote: post #58
scrumper wrote: post #55

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Parent isn’t wrong. Chandler was a very interesting distributed PIM in (I think) the very early 2000s. It collapsed under the weight of its own ambition but it’s a significant piece of software history, one of those alternative paths. And yes it’s a TV character too, but Parent isn’t wrong to point out the name collision.

Your're wooshing yourself too. Chandler was a character on Friends. The parent project, Monica, is ALSO a character on Friends.

There is no wooosh in the comment, pal.

1. Knowing (or not knowing) that Chandler is a character on Friends has nothing to do with the comments here.

2. You are the woooshed. "Chauncey", "Bingaling", and "Miss [Chanandler] Bong" are all (semi-obscure) names that were used to refer to Chandler Bing at some point during the series. All suitable alternatives for a project codename. (Not that it matters, because, again whether one knows any of this has nothing to do with the issue being discussed. Your explanation is not exculpatory. It's not an affirmative defense. It's just... nothing. It's like a cow's opinion; it's moo.)

Try, like, reading or something.

Re: Monica: Open-source personal relationship manager

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Post by pwdisswordfish9 »

BostonEnginerd wrote: post #53
pwdisswordfish9 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually despise comments that point out that two pieces of (almost always unrelated) software share the same (or a similar) name. That doesn't apply in this case— Chandler has not only already been used for another piece of software, it has been used for something in what is roughly the same space. The other Chandler was discontinued >10 years ago, but I had to double check and triple check to suss out whether or n…

The Monica /Chandler thing is a reference to the 90s television show “Friends”.

Correct.

Why do you think this is relevant to the topic of whether it's okay to use the name "Chandler" after having already been used for another personal information management tool?

Re: Monica: Open-source personal relationship manager

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Post by [deleted] »

pwdisswordfish9 wrote: post #51
robinhood wrote: post #37

Author of Monica/Chandler here. Thanks for posting this. As others have pointed out, we are rewriting Monica from scratch, codename Chandler: https://github.com/monicahq/chandler We've also written OfficeLife, an open source tool to manage your employees: https://github.com/officelifehq/officelife , yet to be released. I think we have too many ideas and side projects :-)

I usually despise comments that point out that two pieces of (almost always unrelated) software share the same (or a similar) name. That doesn't apply in this case— Chandler has not only already been used for another piece of software, it has been used for something in what is roughly the same space. The other Chandler was discontinued >10 years ago, but I had to double check and triple check to suss out whether or n…

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Re: Monica: Open-source personal relationship manager

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Post by pwdisswordfish9 »

spoonjim wrote: post #60
pwdisswordfish9 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I usually despise comments that point out that two pieces of (almost always unrelated) software share the same (or a similar) name. That doesn't apply in this case— Chandler has not only already been used for another piece of software, it has been used for something in what is roughly the same space. The other Chandler was discontinued >10 years ago, but I had to double check and triple check to suss out whether or n…

In software, discontinued 10 years ago is like a language that’s been dead for 5,000.

Is everyone responding to this comment high or something?

> The other Chandler was discontinued >10 years ago, but[...]

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