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Ask HN: What are your thoughts on students replacing their notebooks with iPads?

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Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on students replacing their notebooks with iPads?

#12
I think this is framing it wrong.

First of all, you need something to write papers on, which means you're choosing between a laptop and a tablet with an add-on keyboard. "Traditional cheap pen and paper" doesn't work for writing papers.

Second, once you've got a device, it makes much more sense to take notes on it rather than pen and paper, for most people, because it's easier to keep organized, to keep backed up, to share with other students, and never worry about losing. (Oh crap I brought my red notebook to Econ 201 instead of my blue notebook!)

So it really comes down to, whether a laptop or tablet with keyboard is better. For some majors like CS you need a laptop full stop. For other majors the ability to draw diagrams with a pencil might be far more important. If you have a lot of digital textbooks then a tablet might be much more ergonomic to read them on than a laptop.

Not to mention tablets are often easier to protect, less likely to break, easier to slip into a bag, weigh less, etc.

But none of that has to do with "better grades" or "group pressure" or a "desire to fit in". It's entirely to do with a necessary tool, and which one meets your specific academic needs the best. You seem to be coming from an assumption that "expensive iPads and accessories" are in addition to a laptop+paper, whereas for a lot of students it's an alternative to.

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on students replacing their notebooks with iPads?

#13
post #11

Unless you're in a specific course the ability to jot notes with a pen is huge. Taking notes with a laptop during a lecture is a PITA.

Many laptops support pens either Wacom or EMR (Thinkpads, Surfaces, Dells...)

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on students replacing their notebooks with iPads?

#14

I think this is framing it wrong. First of all, you need something to write papers on, which means you're choosing between a laptop and a tablet with an add-on keyboard. "Traditional cheap pen and paper" doesn't work for writing papers. Second, once you've got a device, it makes much more sense to take notes on it rather than pen and paper, for most people, because it's easier to keep organized, to keep backed up, to…

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Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on students replacing their notebooks with iPads?

#15
I guess I'm too old school. Pen and paper don't require batteries or recharge (though possible more ink or lead, if a pencil instead of pen).

I've read enough of "how to take notes" and every one of the articles said take quick notes, get gist of the topic down. Once out of class immediately re-write the notes. This helps with learning and comprehension. Now, if you have back-to-back classes this goes out the window.

For me writing helps me remember. I think if I wanted to incorporate technology I would still use pen and paper. Then once I got home re-write my notes on what ever device was most appropriate. I feel like I would get double benefit of physically writing the notes and then reflecting on the lecture as I was typing them in.

Again, my own take and to each their own.

The best way to do anything is the way that works best for you!!!

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on students replacing their notebooks with iPads?

#16
In the title it's iPad vs laptop, but in the text it's iPad vs pen and paper. That gets me lost. When it comes to iPad replacing laptop. I don't think it's a good thing. iPad is a consumer of information (playing apps, watching videos). In contrast, laptop is more of a producer (developing apps, writing, reading but not lying around). iPad replacing laptop means that students are shifting more towards consumption rather than production,.

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on students replacing their notebooks with iPads?

#17
By the time I was finishing with school, in the US, laptops had become almost ubiquitous on campus. iPads aren't a big difference from that. If you're upset about people not using pen and paper, you've got to go back 20+ years to find when the shift actually happened.

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on students replacing their notebooks with iPads?

#18
It doesn't help at all. It's a gimmick and it used(maybe still is) to look cool when you sit with a tablet and look like you are learning something. In any decent class, you'd have hard time following the pace the professor sets, so quickly writing on paper is much better.

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on students replacing their notebooks with iPads?

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post #16

In the title it's iPad vs laptop, but in the text it's iPad vs pen and paper. That gets me lost. When it comes to iPad replacing laptop. I don't think it's a good thing. iPad is a consumer of information (playing apps, watching videos). In contrast, laptop is more of a producer (developing apps, writing, reading but not lying around). iPad replacing laptop means that students are shifting more towards consumption rat…

I'm almost certain that more art has been created on iPads than on all laptops combined. Procreate drawings alone might have done it.

Re: Ask HN: What are your thoughts on students replacing their notebooks with iPads?

#20
It's a tool like anything else. If you use it right, it can allow you to do certain things better than you could on paper.

I used an iPad to take notes on PDFs of lectures and textbooks when possible. Was incredibly helpful, and searching worked faster than flipping pages. The stylus is very accurate as as easy to write with as paper.

Eventually found an app called Notability to takes notes that stayed in sync with audio recording of the lecture. Helped a ton concentrating on what was being spoken instead of trying to transcribe it, and revisiting areas of confusion.

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