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React Native made me give up a project today

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Re: React Native made me give up a project today

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Post by ericlewis »

rockyj wrote: post #26

Ruby, Cocoapods, Homebrew are not React Native problems, they are Apple problems. They ship an OS without a development friendly package management system. Their entire toolchain has no way to manage libs/packages which led to the creation of Homebrew + Cocoapods. Apple also does not allow iOS development on other OS where package management is much better. Apple now also has added the extra complexity of a new CPU a…

They could they just don't. You could use npm, you could use SwiftPM. There is no tie to the cocoapods infra really - they just use it because that was there.

Re: React Native made me give up a project today

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Post by buffalobuffalo »

I like to work on a linux dev environment, and occasionally need to work on react native. This can be quite a pain when ios specific testing is needed. My solution has been to get a cloud hosted MacOS VM and RDP into it to test with the iOS emulator. These VMs typically run x86, so you get around a lot of the M1 issues.

Re: React Native made me give up a project today

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Post by taeric »

rockyj wrote: post #26

Ruby, Cocoapods, Homebrew are not React Native problems, they are Apple problems. They ship an OS without a development friendly package management system. Their entire toolchain has no way to manage libs/packages which led to the creation of Homebrew + Cocoapods. Apple also does not allow iOS development on other OS where package management is much better. Apple now also has added the extra complexity of a new CPU a…

Sorta? You can claim it is the fault of Apple, but as it is literally the problem that RN is trying to solve, it is very much their problem.

Re: React Native made me give up a project today

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Post by frankus »

mike_hearn wrote: post #28

If you like the React style approach but want something a bit more self-contained, why not check out SwiftUI? Alternatively for Android, Jetpack Compose? Both toolkits are similar in style to React. If you're feeling brave (I guess not today) you could also try a Kotlin Multiplatform app, which lets you share code between Android, iOS and desktop or even use Jetpack Compose on iOS (but that's a road less travelled be…

I feel like the next iteration of a React Native-like tool (if Flutter isn't your jam) could build on top of SwiftUI and JetPack compose.

Re: React Native made me give up a project today

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Post by pdntspa »

kitsunesoba wrote: post #7

This is one of the reasons that as a one person mobile team, I’ve avoided anything but native mobile toolkits. It’s a little more work in some ways that way, but if I have to set one platform down for a while to focus on the other, picking it back up isn’t ever a problem, and if I run into issues usually others have too and they’re easy to fix. Even the mess that are native Android projects are usually reasonable to…

I recently got a Rails 4 project I wrote back in 2016 running on a VM for some consulting I'm doing. The contractee is still running it in production.

It was a bit of an adventure, but it can be done. The tricky thing is making sure native compilation works.

Re: React Native made me give up a project today

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Post by vsmhn »

akmarinov wrote: post #19
vsmhn wrote: post #6

Judging from your fourth row, it seems to be that "Apple made me give up a project today" is the correct headline, since M1 is apparently the issue.

The native toolset works fine on M1, seems like dependencies issues, like always with React Native.

I was really tempted to buy a new Mac but there are still lots of gotchas my colleagues had to solve, so I decided to wait. Pushing ARM64 to developer machines still seems like a rushed decision imo, and it definitely shifted resources into building and supporting ARM64, resources that Apple doesn't necessarily pay for. At the end of the day, for me it matters how fast I can do a certain task and how much spare time I have left after I finish it.

Docker example: https://docs.docker.com/desktop/troubleshoot/known-issues/ See the "Known issues for Mac with Apple silicon" tab.

Re: React Native made me give up a project today

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Post by rcarr »

lifely wrote: post #21

I'm sure a simple tool would improve the environment issue you mentioned. It's crazy to me how ` https://asdf-vm.com ` is still not that well known, Should help to fix lots of dependency issue and it should be a must install for all developers.

+1, asdf is so good

Re: React Native made me give up a project today

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Post by whalesalad »

You quit after a single day? those are rookie tenacity numbers bud, gotta pump those up. give yourself at least a week, all new things are tough. I have been programming professionally for 15 years and I still encounter these uphill battles that feel terrible - but once you are over the hump it is often smooth sailing.

Re: React Native made me give up a project today

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Post by nine_k »

taeric wrote: post #33
rockyj wrote: post #26

Ruby, Cocoapods, Homebrew are not React Native problems, they are Apple problems. They ship an OS without a development friendly package management system. Their entire toolchain has no way to manage libs/packages which led to the creation of Homebrew + Cocoapods. Apple also does not allow iOS development on other OS where package management is much better. Apple now also has added the extra complexity of a new CPU a…

Sorta? You can claim it is the fault of Apple, but as it is literally the problem that RN is trying to solve, it is very much their problem.

Who solves this problem any better in the cross-platform GUI space?

Well, maybe Qt, but even if it does, C++ is much less forgiving than TS.

Re: React Native made me give up a project today

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Post by ncallaway »

rockyj wrote: post #26

Ruby, Cocoapods, Homebrew are not React Native problems, they are Apple problems. They ship an OS without a development friendly package management system. Their entire toolchain has no way to manage libs/packages which led to the creation of Homebrew + Cocoapods. Apple also does not allow iOS development on other OS where package management is much better. Apple now also has added the extra complexity of a new CPU a…

I was going to say, the same is true of every cross platform framework I’ve ever used.

Coming back after some time away is usually 5 minutes of updating things to get Android working, and then a few hours of iOS dependency hell.

It’s definitely an issue with RN, but I haven’t used a cross platform framework that’s any better in this regard.

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