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I record myself on audio 24x7 and use an AI to process the information

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Re: I record myself on audio 24x7 and use an AI to process the information

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Post by hatware »

Waterluvian wrote: post #2

> My biggest problem with “OK Google” is that I don’t know by heart what it can do interactively Maybe it’s just me but this feels unaddressed and that seems ridiculous. Why is it so hard for me to find a single, precise location on my phone with an enumerated list of every command Siri or Google can work with?

> Why is it so hard for me to find a single, precise location on my phone with an enumerated list of every command Siri or Google can work with?

Because engineers (and managers) contrive problems like this to the point they are useless solutions.

Re: I record myself on audio 24x7 and use an AI to process the information

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Post by fellerts »

PaulHoule wrote: post #3

If you are going through that much trouble you might as well get a WiFi scale, wear a tracker that has an API, etc. I’ve definitely thought about taking speech-to-text notes at work, nice to see somebody did it.

The problem is all those gadgets have their own APIs and quirks. For example, my WiFi scale often decides to silently not sync to my phone. Or decides to update my partner's weight instead of mine. OP is building on arguably the most natural API - speech, which is what all those smart assistants have been promising us for a decade. I think there is a lot of convenience as well as unexplored ground to be found in such a system.

Re: I record myself on audio 24x7 and use an AI to process the information

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Post by roberdam »

j_mo wrote: post #17

Doesn't this break wiretapping laws (depending on the user's geographic location) and possibly GDPR/NDAs(if left on while at work)? Ethically most people probably wouldn't be happy to find out that you recorded a conversation with them.

I am using it with friends and family, and tell them beforehand about the experiment

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Post by counttheforks »

ninkendo wrote: post #11
Waterluvian wrote: post #2

> My biggest problem with “OK Google” is that I don’t know by heart what it can do interactively Maybe it’s just me but this feels unaddressed and that seems ridiculous. Why is it so hard for me to find a single, precise location on my phone with an enumerated list of every command Siri or Google can work with?

> Why is it so hard for me to find a single, precise location on my phone with an enumerated list of every command Siri or Google can work with? The likely answer here is that the engineers who work on such products would scoff at the idea that their work amounts to a simple list of commands. In their minds, they’re working on a natural language virtual assistant, whose understanding of user input is “intelligent”, a…

I'm not sure if that's what Google is doing. More than half of my queries result in a "Let me google that for you" response where it pulls up a search page.

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Post by kevincox »

cool-RR wrote: post #21
Waterluvian wrote: post #2

> My biggest problem with “OK Google” is that I don’t know by heart what it can do interactively Maybe it’s just me but this feels unaddressed and that seems ridiculous. Why is it so hard for me to find a single, precise location on my phone with an enumerated list of every command Siri or Google can work with?

There isn't even an enumerated list of all the features of the Google search engine (i.e. quotes for full expression, minus to rule out words etc.) And this might be the most popular web service in the world!

There is actually a fairly good list here: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/2466433?hl=en

I know for a fact that it isn't complete. But most of the "secret" ones that I am aware of were very obscure and usually buggy, so maybe this is all of the officially supported ones.

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Post by sofetch »

ninkendo wrote: post #24
albertzeyer wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, is there a list of every command a human can execute or can work with?

Not sure what side of the debate you're taking here, but I think you've outlined the issue perfectly. Engineers: "We couldn't have a list of commands, that's not how humans work, you're supposed to treat Alexa like a human, and the possibilities are endless" Users: "Ok, then. Alexa, take out the trash." Alexa: "Sorry, I can't do that." (Ok, so obviously the possibilities aren't endless, right?) I can somewhat underst…

> (Ok, so obviously the possibilities aren't endless, right?)

This does not follow from the above. The set of positive integers is countably infinite. So is the set of positive even integers. Even if "half of the positive integers are missing!" there are still "endless" even postive integers.

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Post by lbayes »

unsupp0rted wrote: post #9

I remember an Asimov short story in which scientists developed a machine that could see backward in time. If I recall correctly, the upshot was the government became terrified because any machine that can see 1000 years into the past can also see 1000 milliseconds into the past and therefore functionally be used to spy on anyone in real time.

There was an article some years ago (2 or 3?), that described a drone (or drones?) that flew 24/7 over Mexico city taking high resolution video of the entire city at all times.

Whenever there was a crime, the police could zoom into that location at the time of the crime and then run backwards to see where the vehicles came from. They then knocked on that door.

I'm disappointed that I can't seem to find it using Google anymore, maybe it was from a movie or TV show?! That would be weird though, because it seems technically quite reasonable to achieve and hard to believe governments wouldn't jump on it.

Re: I record myself on audio 24x7 and use an AI to process the information

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Post by roberdam »

alexmolas wrote: post #12

(Slightly off topic) If you click in the "RoberDam.com" link that appears when you scroll a little bit you get redirected to " http://localhost:8080/ ". It seems to only happen in the English page. In the Spanish version of the post the link works well.

Fixed, thanks for the tip Alex!

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Post by Telemakhos »

davidy123 wrote: post #5
Waterluvian wrote: post #2

> My biggest problem with “OK Google” is that I don’t know by heart what it can do interactively Maybe it’s just me but this feels unaddressed and that seems ridiculous. Why is it so hard for me to find a single, precise location on my phone with an enumerated list of every command Siri or Google can work with?

It would change constantly over time, and would eventually become very large. It's an interesting idea, though, a school subject on how to interact with your AI. Lots of grammer, machine learning theory, culture, a bit of security, etc, to second guess it.

Students in most public schools don’t even learn English grammar now in most states. That went away at some point in the Bush or Obama administrations, probably due to the NCLB and Common Core initiatives. It is not uncommon now to encounter college students who simply have never heard of a “direct object.” They need classes on the grammar of their own language more than they need a school subject on interacting with an overhyped and underperforming Siri.

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Post by jononor »

Waterluvian wrote: post #2

> My biggest problem with “OK Google” is that I don’t know by heart what it can do interactively Maybe it’s just me but this feels unaddressed and that seems ridiculous. Why is it so hard for me to find a single, precise location on my phone with an enumerated list of every command Siri or Google can work with?

I would not count on Google to make public any such thing. But a third party could test it out to build such a list. And that could include caveats like "works if you ask in this form, no if you ask in this other form".
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