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Ask HN: How ready for daily driving is Asahi Linux?

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Re: Ask HN: How ready for daily driving is Asahi Linux?

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No GPU means it gets pretty hot sometimes (don't even try watching videos, I've literally burned myself :'). Otherwise I'd say I could use it as a daily driver: a bit clunky, needs some tinkering, but everything I personally need (VSCodium, Firefox, Docker, wifi, audio in the headphones) already works and works well. If you already have a MacBook you could use, just give it a try – you can dual-boot, so if it doesn't…

Hmm, I thought the GPU driver was already pretty good?

Re: Ask HN: How ready for daily driving is Asahi Linux?

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I've recently started a trial of NixOS on a Framework laptop.

It's definitely not ready for a normal person, that's true. I'm working in text files to configure things, and had to debug the GUI not starting after my initial install.

That said, I was pleasantly surprised how much the basic Gnome desktop just got right after initial setup. My Bluetooth earbuds were plug-and-play, and watching Netflix in Firefox just required clicking the "Enable DRM" popup that appeared on the Netflix failure page.

I've run into more issues as I've progressed (e.g., USB 4 channel audio interface is recognised as a microphone but doesn't just show up by name in Audacity), and yeah - overall it's not ready for a non-programmer.

Nonetheless, I've been pleasantly surprised at how much better it works than it did the last time I tried a Linux desktop, in my mid-twenties. Things are definitely better.

...granted, I intentionally chose a machine that was designed with all Linux-supported hardware. I'm sure that helps a lot.

Re: Ask HN: How ready for daily driving is Asahi Linux?

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No GPU means it gets pretty hot sometimes (don't even try watching videos, I've literally burned myself :'). Otherwise I'd say I could use it as a daily driver: a bit clunky, needs some tinkering, but everything I personally need (VSCodium, Firefox, Docker, wifi, audio in the headphones) already works and works well. If you already have a MacBook you could use, just give it a try – you can dual-boot, so if it doesn't…

Hmm, I thought the GPU driver was already pretty good?

Good progress is being made with a GPU driver, but currently as released rendering is all being done in software.

Re: Ask HN: How ready for daily driving is Asahi Linux?

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>> the laptop doesn't sleep when closed Linux is amazing but doing the right thing when you close the lid is a seemingly intractable problem for it. Maybe we need a hardware spec and a paid distro to finally solve these kinds of problems.

Dell XPS is the only laptop where I have seen this working reliably. Worst part is that thanks to zram, many distros removed hibernate functionality. So its not possible now to either sleep or hibernate on many laptop/distro combinations. This makes Linux unusable in most cases due to battery drain (and some times even dangerous as laptop gets super hot inside bag etc).

My newer XPS laptop doesn't even have an S3 sleep state. At least it can hibernate under OpenBSD, I guess.

Re: Ask HN: How ready for daily driving is Asahi Linux?

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Hint: it's not. I'm not asking much though: I just need a linux laptop which is fast (lots of rust compilations) and can stay for a whole day unplugged. Thunderbolt connectivity to dock it at home (and use bigger screens) would be perfect. I don't need the GPU, I'm mainly using the terminal and the CPU in fast enough for that. But it's not even there: the CPU is heating even when doing nothing, the laptop doesn't sle…

>> the laptop doesn't sleep when closed Linux is amazing but doing the right thing when you close the lid is a seemingly intractable problem for it. Maybe we need a hardware spec and a paid distro to finally solve these kinds of problems.

Well not even Windows can manage to sleep a 'modern standby' laptop reliably these days.

I had to set hibernate on lid-close because Windows kept waking it up all the time even while closed.

Re: Ask HN: How ready for daily driving is Asahi Linux?

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You might want to check the new ThinkPad Z13 and Z16 models with latest Ryzen CPU. You get similar performance and battery life as you'd expect from an M1. https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-Z13-laptop-rev... No need to change the CPU architecture.

I have the system 76 AMD model for work called Pangolin (not available now) it really quite fast and doesn’t get too hot. Battery life is great. I’ve stressed tested doing genetics work which involved maxing out 16 cores across a couple days.

Those new AMDs are great. I went with the system76 because it comes with and they support Linux. It sleeps and wakes ok too

Re: Ask HN: How ready for daily driving is Asahi Linux?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> the laptop doesn't sleep when closed Linux is amazing but doing the right thing when you close the lid is a seemingly intractable problem for it. Maybe we need a hardware spec and a paid distro to finally solve these kinds of problems.

Dell XPS is the only laptop where I have seen this working reliably. Worst part is that thanks to zram, many distros removed hibernate functionality. So its not possible now to either sleep or hibernate on many laptop/distro combinations. This makes Linux unusable in most cases due to battery drain (and some times even dangerous as laptop gets super hot inside bag etc).

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Re: Ask HN: How ready for daily driving is Asahi Linux?

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> the laptop doesn't sleep when closed Linux is amazing but doing the right thing when you close the lid is a seemingly intractable problem for it. Maybe we need a hardware spec and a paid distro to finally solve these kinds of problems.

Well not even Windows can manage to sleep a 'modern standby' laptop reliably these days. I had to set hibernate on lid-close because Windows kept waking it up all the time even while closed.

I have always been curious why I have been seeing people with MacBooks close their lids and walk away at a moment’s notice for nearly 20 years, but I still do not expect to be able to do that from any non Macbook.

Such a killer feature that one would think Microsoft would prioritize.

Re: Ask HN: How ready for daily driving is Asahi Linux?

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I've recently started a trial of NixOS on a Framework laptop. It's definitely not ready for a normal person, that's true. I'm working in text files to configure things, and had to debug the GUI not starting after my initial install. That said, I was pleasantly surprised how much the basic Gnome desktop just got right after initial setup. My Bluetooth earbuds were plug-and-play, and watching Netflix in Firefox just re…

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