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What Happened at Alameda Research

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Re: What Happened at Alameda Research

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I can't think of any possible reason. https://fortune.com/2022/11/10/sam-bankman-fried-ftx-joe-bid...

Ryan Salame, the co-CEO, donated heavily to the GOP.

Don't fall for the red-blue trap. There is one establishment, which uses social issues to divide and conquer and create the illusion of choice.

Re: What Happened at Alameda Research

#192

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The NYT article is headlined "How Sam Bankman-Friedʼs Crypto Empire Collapsed". The parts of the article which actually answer this question are, in their totality, as follows: > Alameda had accumulated a large “margin position” on FTX, essentially meaning it had borrowed funds from the exchange, Par 6. Common knowledge, finance-splained and followed by equivocation and hand-waving from SBF. > On Nov. 6, Mr. Zhao ann…

I think you're misunderstanding what the NYT article is, it's not a piece of deep investigative journalism, it's an interview with SBF with context attached.

So an entertainment piece, as mentioned?

I can't see the article because of the login, but what does the piece achieve? Does the interview ask Sam hard questions?

Re: What Happened at Alameda Research

#193

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The NYT article is a shockingly bad puff piece. It doesn't once mention fraud. Doesn't call out that Alameda borrowing funds from FTX deposits is insanely illegal Makes it sound like poor SBF got unlucky and it wasn't his fault he recklessly gambled $8+B of customer deposits

Given both SBF and Caroline's family connections, I'm not surprised that the MSM is going to treat them with kid gloves.

Let me guess, the article doesn't even mention those connections?

Re: What Happened at Alameda Research

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I agree with that. I don't think this was malice though - just extreme stupidity (and hopefully criminal). I think they thought they could trade their way out of it. That's different to malice which goes to motivations.

Alameda just non-maliciously gave their own account special privileges on their own exchange, non-maliciously front-ran customer orders, non-maliciously traded on material nonpublic information (their own exchange listings), non-maliciously used their ownership of their exchange to strike trades that caused them $400mm of losses in one of their multiple KCG-style algorithmic meltdowns, non-maliciously stole billions…

All with the best of intentions.

For the greater good of humanity. The most effective altruism.

Re: What Happened at Alameda Research

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A Merkle tree may show what crypto assets are held, but it doesn't stop the exchange from having a balance sheet with a negative $8bn entry described as “hidden, poorly internally labled ‘fiat@’ account”. Until these crypto companies are audited by actual recognized auditors I would just assume that everything they say is suspect.

The auditor that Kraken used claims to be "one of the top 25 largest accounting, consulting and technology firms in the U.S.". Is the idea that they aren't "auditors"?

Top 25 means literally nothing. Outside of crypto, billion dollar a year companies use the Big 4 (Deloitte, PWC, EY, KPMG) for their audits. There is a second tier of maybe a half dozen audit firms (Grant Thornton being probably one of the best known) below the Big 4, used by smaller companies. By the time you get to #25 you're dealing with mom and pop shops.

Also, this wasn't an "audit" in the traditional sense of the word, it was an attestation as to proof of reserves based on the Merkle tree.

The press release about the "audit" is full of red flags:

"Administered by Armanino LLP, the Proof of Reserves audit is the second of its kind conducted on our exchange since 2014". Two audits in eight years, lol.

"Though the audit covers just two of the over 100 assets available for trading on our exchange". They only checked BTC and ETH reserves, nothing else, lol.

From the audit report itself:

"This report may not be suitable for any other purpose. The procedures performed may not address all the items of interest to a user of this report and may not meet the needs of all users of this report and, as such, users are responsible for determining whether the procedures performed are appropriate for their purposes."

"We were not engaged to and did not conduct an examination or review engagement, the objective of which would be the expression of an opinion or conclusion, respectively, related to the platform account liabilities and asset balances represented by Kraken. Accordingly, we do not express such an opinion or conclusion. Had we performed additional procedures, other matters might have come to our attention that would have been reported."

"The practitioner’s report is as of a specified point in time and we have no responsibility to update the report or findings therein for subsequent points in time."

All this "audit" tells you is that on December 31, 2021 Kraken had an amount of BTC and ETH that matched customer deposits. That's it. Nothing about other coins. Nothing about assets and liabilities overall (e.g., did they take out loans using customer BTC as collateral). Nothing about financial practices. Nothing about what they may or may not have had the day before or the day after.

Re: What Happened at Alameda Research

#196

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It's not about performance or risk management, it's about due diligence. They should not be giving any amount of money to an organization with such poor internal checks of their finances.

--if you made an investment based on audited books but the books were still cooked - what more can you do? - audit the auditer maybe - at some point you have to trust the books --

What if you made an investment based on not seeing any books, there not being any reliable guide as to the company's liabilities, seen or unseen, and not being aware of any regulation or oversight preventing fraud and/or blowing up? But you had a good feeling about the company's hype and the CEO seemed like a nice young man with main character energy?

If the company turns out to be a fraud and the investment worthless, are you still entitled to say "nobody could have known" and "only 1 in 10 has to be a winner"?

Re: What Happened at Alameda Research

#198

Going through all their shenanigans, any legal activity on the exchange was rare. Extremely criminal behavior. SBF would buy tokens from his personal account, Alameda would then buy the same tokens, and then FTX would list those tokens after Alameda bought them. Criminal beyond measure and it's absurd that all of these big name funds did not do even ten minutes of due diligence. The Ontario Teacher's Pension Fund was…

I'm not actually sure that particular move is criminal. Morally reprehensible, most certainly, but my understanding was that, since crypto isn't regulated like a security by the SEC or anyone else, you are free to pump&dump all you want without having to fear legal consequences.

Re: What Happened at Alameda Research

#199

Before or after they were bribing politicians for favourable regulation for FTX at the detriment of their competitors who were not fraudulent? https://prospect.org/power/sam-bankman-frieds-multimillion-d... > Crypto’s supporters in Congress are determined to ignore the massive gap in capacity between the two agencies; in fact, they likely understand that its incapacity is part of its appeal to FTX. A bill proposed by…

If the cup is half empty it's called bribing. Otherwise it's called lobbying. I don't know anything about the CFTC in particular but I'm familiar with the general idea of lobbying and the role it plays in a representative government. Elected officials have to interface with basically every industry in the country. How is any specific representative in a legislature going to have the knowledge required to vote on a ba…

The problem is not with industry insiders leaving private enterprise to go work for the government, the problem is government regulators leaving the government to collect large paychecks from the companies they used to be tasked with regulating, i.e. that there is the appearance of personal benefits to regulate to the benefits of future employers rather then the general public.

What's actually needed is government agencies staffed with industry insiders who knows that they will never ever work in the industry again and have nothing to loose from putting the general public first, but this is kind of hard to do when government work is not seen as something of particularly high status, where people go for self realization after a success career in the private sector.

Re: What Happened at Alameda Research

#200

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The NYT article is headlined "How Sam Bankman-Friedʼs Crypto Empire Collapsed". The parts of the article which actually answer this question are, in their totality, as follows: > Alameda had accumulated a large “margin position” on FTX, essentially meaning it had borrowed funds from the exchange, Par 6. Common knowledge, finance-splained and followed by equivocation and hand-waving from SBF. > On Nov. 6, Mr. Zhao ann…

I think you're misunderstanding what the NYT article is, it's not a piece of deep investigative journalism, it's an interview with SBF with context attached.

Right. So it was accurately described by the author of the linked article as 'a poorly researched fluff piece'.
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