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Elon Musk says he fired engineer who corrected him on Twitter

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Re: Elon Musk says he fired engineer who corrected him on Twitter

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Post by programmarchy »

salad-fan wrote: post #16
programmarchy wrote: post #8

So, are there 1,000 RPCs needed to render the timeline or not? The Android engineer didn't seem to know the difference between an RPC and a request from an end user client. The former timeline engineer disabled public responses to his tweet and has refused to elaborate. Neither of them backed up their contradiction with a rebuttal. Edit: Was curious so did some digging and found more: > @elonmusk: > I was told ~1200…

Did you even read the Twitter thread? The number (~20) was provided right there.

Yes, and I also know the difference between a request from an end user client and a server-to-server RPC which was referenced in Musk’s tweet. The Android engineer is confusing the two, and so are you apparently.

Re: Elon Musk says he fired engineer who corrected him on Twitter

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Post by salad-fan »

programmarchy wrote: post #21
salad-fan wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you even read the Twitter thread? The number (~20) was provided right there.

Yes, and I also know the difference between a request from an end user client and a server-to-server RPC which was referenced in Musk’s tweet. The Android engineer is confusing the two, and so are you apparently.

Space Karen didn’t make that distinction in his original tweet: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591853644944932865

In fact by referring to the “App” making “RPCs” (2nd sentence), the most straight forward interpretation is that he was talking about client -> server calls.

Re: Elon Musk says he fired engineer who corrected him on Twitter

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Post by programmarchy »

salad-fan wrote: post #22
programmarchy wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, and I also know the difference between a request from an end user client and a server-to-server RPC which was referenced in Musk’s tweet. The Android engineer is confusing the two, and so are you apparently.

Space Karen didn’t make that distinction in his original tweet: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1591853644944932865 In fact by referring to the “App” making “RPCs” (2nd sentence), the most straight forward interpretation is that he was talking about client -> server calls.

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Re: Elon Musk says he fired engineer who corrected him on Twitter

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Post by UlisesAC4 »

quantified wrote: post #15
PaulHoule wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's true. But it's also a setup to get Musk to make yet another own goal by showing how hollow Musk's free-speech absolutism is.

The speech was free in that it wasn't muzzled, the tweet is still up. Doesn't mean it was free of the usual consequences.

If your comment on something, which in turn was right or not ends having consequences then free speech doesn't apply at all.

Re: Elon Musk says he fired engineer who corrected him on Twitter

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Post by quantified »

UlisesAC4 wrote: post #25
quantified wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The speech was free in that it wasn't muzzled, the tweet is still up. Doesn't mean it was free of the usual consequences.

If your comment on something, which in turn was right or not ends having consequences then free speech doesn't apply at all.

I see that "the usual consequences" isn't all that popular based on downvoting. These comments are staying up on HN, it's handling the speech and the speech is gathering consequences too. Speech has consequences. If I insult your choice of clothing in front of a crowd, I can expect you to disinvite me from your party.

Perhaps this is a question of the use of the word "free". There's a narrow interpretation of it to mean "able to be said" and also "allowed or constrained by government". Twitter deplatforming this engineer would be fit the narrow flavor, and nothing written so far suggests that happened. Elon has not said the Twitter will have a free-speech-oriented employer-employee dynamic. Few if any workplaces have. I'd be very interested in hearing from people who think their management chain would handle it well, especially if they think their management chain would publicly pop off with the information level on topics that Elon appears to be.

I'm not on the side of a petty thin-skinned manager behaving like this at all. I just believe it is pretty much the common case that managers called out in public will fire you, so you'd expect it. Especially from Elon.

Re: Elon Musk says he fired engineer who corrected him on Twitter

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Post by jurassic »

sn0w_crash wrote: post #18

Play stupid games win stupid prizes? People are shocked that they can’t dunk on their boss in public. Lol.

The guy wanted to get fired, obviously. These people who kamikaze like that are getting free followers, a great story, a ton of inbound job interest, and the pleasure of wasting some of Elon's time (his most valuable and limited resource). If you resign quietly, you get nothing. Makes total sense.

Re: Elon Musk says he fired engineer who corrected him on Twitter

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Post by tgv »

quantified wrote: post #2

Publicly calling your CEO out like that will generally get you fired. It would be newsworthy if the engineer didn't get released.

> Publicly calling your CEO out like that will generally get you fired. It would be newsworthy if the engineer didn't get released.

You can only think that as an unavoidable consequence if you assume the CEO's ego is more important than the company.

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