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Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada

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Post by weatherlite »

brigandish wrote: post #452
weatherlite wrote: post #429

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> you're not going to choose a country with poor infrastructure over places like the US or most of Europe unless you're feeling adventurous or have some specific reason to Being FROM India is a good reason to work in India. Do you think uprooting your life is a piece of cake? What if you have old parents? What if you prefer your own culture and not being an immigrant for the rest of your life? Also, you're overlookin…

> Do you think uprooting your life is a piece of cake? I'm an immigrant in a non-English speaking country, I'm well aware of how difficult it is to uproot, and I can tell you that what I'm doing (on the surface) is much harder than going from India to North America. > That's living in a mansion with servants kinda rich. That doesn't counter the problems with the infrastructure. If you stay in your mansion then I'm su…

You can probably still go to Canada if you wanted to! Their generous immigration policy is only getting more generous. Anyway best of luck! From a fellow (ex) immigrant.

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Post by HWR_14 »

pas wrote: post #459
HWR_14 wrote: post #402

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> autistic spectrum than normal people do. So most likely many of the commentators just don't have the biological wiring for feeling empathy like many others do This is outdated. Assuming you are using "empathy" conversationally, it's driven by the fact that people higher on the autistic spectrum don't perceive what other people feel very well, and historically this was misinterpreted. The comments on HN aren't "I do…

People with a hard time to be empathetic (alternatively let's call it theory of mind deficiency) or who have trouble with emotional regulation tend to develop coping mechanisms, for example a typical one is that they start to simply ignore feelings of others in most situations, don't mention feelings in communications, etc. Does this absolve them of hurting others? Of course not really, but it might help others under…

You disagree with the paper I cited, which says that there is no correlation? Do you have evidence or just a gut feeling?

Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada

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Post by zhenghao1 »

Just one guy and there's all this fuss?

I know of companies that layed off 100s of engineers that just relocated from another country. Sometimes it's really not up to the company.

It is sad, but that's just the life we live in, in a post-COVID world. Too much uncertainty and things change in a snap.

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Post by mk89 »

ClumsyPilot wrote: post #366
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> Decisions have consequences, except for conpanies it seems. It's a risk you take by leaving your continent and flying to another one without any permanent residence permit. It's really shit, but that's how it is. It's always been the case, it just makes now the news because it's Facebook. As I mentioned above, an ex colleague of mine moved from South America to Europe without even speaking the country's language an…

> It's a risk you take by leaving your continent and flying to another one without any permanent residence permit. This is a catch 22 - a permanent residence permit is only obtained by living in the country. > It's really shit, but that's how it is. It's always been the case You entire argument seems to boil down to 'its okay for our companies to exploit foreigners because it's always been this way'. You don't actual…

I have been a foreigner for a while now, so it would be against my own interests to wish for such things.

In some EU countries you have a termination period of 2 weeks during probation. Maybe that's a compromise? It's not the best, but it has to be good for everyone (foreigners and not) otherwise it risks to create the opposite: companies not hiring foreigners without visa anymore.

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Post by FieryTransition »

kcplate wrote: post #453
FieryTransition wrote: post #372

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no that's not it, I have opinions as well, I didn't say I didn't have them. I wanted to hear a genuine opinion and tried to ask a stranger for it, is that so bad? For some people, maybe behind the hateful rhetoric some of them see and some of them do, there would be other reasons for their alignment, maybe good reasons which in actuality would have nothing to do with Trump, and could be debated as political issues on…

Perhaps I wasn’t clear, but I think you may have personalized my generalized comment. Let me illustrate my perspective differently. A person thinks the sky is blue. Then Trump publicly says “the sky is blue”. This person now makes the point to say “the sky is NOT blue” just because Trump agreed with their original opinion. What I find irrational about some people’s reaction to Trump is that they feel compelled to cha…

Well, the whole reason for asking in the first place is to find something I could relate to which could stand on its own, whether Trump said it or not. I think you are reading too much into it, I'm mostly an outside observer interested in the whole situation and curious why there's such a divisive and emotional component to it. From what I gathered, talking about him in any way is greatly unproductive, because you have people making assumptions about what you do or don't do immediately, instead of just trying to understand where the other person is coming from with their argument to begin with. The whole thing just seems like a toxic subject, and I'm curious how the American people get out of all this in a few years, or if it will tear your country apart even more. But it will affect us all globally.

Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada

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Post by DiogenesKynikos »

chiefalchemist wrote: post #222
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> Trivial and harmless? First, there's history. Second, the POTUS himself - self proclaimed enemy of divisiveness - yapped "pandemic of the unvaccinated." Which was a lie. A lie for which he has yet to acknowledge, let alone apologize for. The point is, people with an appreciation for history, and a willingness to exert their God given rights were being manipulated and maligned. That's not cool. That's not unifying.…

There's a long history of vaccine requirements, including in the US.

For example, NY state requires that children attending daycare or school be vaccinated against a range of pathogens.

I don't know what you're envisioning happening with mandatory SARS-CoV-2 vaccination, or why you consider it a "ruse." A "ruse" for what, exactly?

I don't think mandatory vaccination equals anyone's "loss of liberty." I don't think there's a right to not be vaccinated. It's a critical public health measure that brings huge benefits to society, and which imposes virtually no burden on the individual.

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Post by lynx23 »

LtWorf wrote: post #185
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So, you advocate that employees from abroad should have some sort of default lay-off protection? Why do you think this is fair?

> Why do you think this is fair? Immigrants are paid less than locals… do you think that is fair?

Source? At least where I am from, people are payed according to what they do and know, and not according to where they are from.

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Post by hnbad »

unethical_ban wrote: post #303
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It's even simpler: make 3 months notice mandatory across the board. Or heck, even 30 days notice would be a start. Of course there's no way you can rely on a corporation to do this voluntarily and regulation is unlikely given who pays the bills. I wish there was a way to make this happen but I keep hearing software workers don't need unions because we already make so much money and the better ones have nothing to wor…

3 months notice, while retaining access to company networks and campus? I support "keeping them on the books" for purposes of visa and health insurance, for example, but there are legitimate security reasons to have people cut off quickly when they've been laid off or fired.

Remaining vacation days should cover the better part of one month alone. If you don't want them to come in for whatever reason, you can send them on paid leave.

Most companies stop having "legitimate security reasons" when the alternative is to pay people for doing nothing. Turns out the fact that actual sabotage and theft of trade secrets is illegal (and often represents a breach of the employment contract, which can incur hefty fines) is a sufficient deterrent for most industries.

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Post by chiefalchemist »

DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #477
chiefalchemist wrote: post #222

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> Trivial and harmless? First, there's history. Second, the POTUS himself - self proclaimed enemy of divisiveness - yapped "pandemic of the unvaccinated." Which was a lie. A lie for which he has yet to acknowledge, let alone apologize for. The point is, people with an appreciation for history, and a willingness to exert their God given rights were being manipulated and maligned. That's not cool. That's not unifying.…

There's a long history of vaccine requirements, including in the US. For example, NY state requires that children attending daycare or school be vaccinated against a range of pathogens. I don't know what you're envisioning happening with mandatory SARS-CoV-2 vaccination, or why you consider it a "ruse." A "ruse" for what, exactly? I don't think mandatory vaccination equals anyone's "loss of liberty." I don't think th…

Ruse? This is easy.

Rewind and remember all that was promised with the vaccinations. The effectiveness. The long term safety (without *any* such testing). Remember the comparisons to other historic vaccinations by professionals well aware the mRNA technology was new and relatively untested. The Covid jab !== The Polio jab. Not even close.

Remember how masks were required. Then remember the news that most masks are ineffective because the virus is smaller that what the masks can stop? How did we not know that? Why do some continue to push masks, even the ones that are effectively useless?

Remember the guy (i.e., Biden) who talked down the divisiveness of others then shamelessly said, "It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated" forcing an unnecessary wedge between the citizens. For what? To get a jab that does perform as promised? To wear "government sanctioned" masks that don't do anything?

For the record, being someone's guinea pig is not liberty. Being someone's political chew toy is not liberty. You can think what you want about public health and the mRNA jabs but don't confuse your confidence with liberty.

The fact that many reasonable and intelligent people such as yourself have forgotten so many important details can only be explained by...a ruse. But that ok, just be sure to carry your Covid papers / Covid passport and you'll be safe.

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