The problem with long term support for my Android phones has actually not been the fact that Android devices have incredibly short security update windows. That issue has been somewhat mitigated with the newer Google Pixel phones which have five years of security updates. The biggest issue for long term cell phone support is, even if we get an OS with a 10-year security update timeline like Rocky Linux, will the phon…
I’m really confused by this - my iPhone 6 from 2014 has 4G LTE (and still gets security updates). What were you buying in 2018 that was 3G!?
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Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices
#92The problem with long term support for my Android phones has actually not been the fact that Android devices have incredibly short security update windows. That issue has been somewhat mitigated with the newer Google Pixel phones which have five years of security updates. The biggest issue for long term cell phone support is, even if we get an OS with a 10-year security update timeline like Rocky Linux, will the phon…
I’m really confused by this - my iPhone 6 from 2014 has 4G LTE (and still gets security updates). What were you buying in 2018 that was 3G!?
Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Since the 1400s my arse. It's just an annoying trend among woke evangelists, and makes the english language uglier while conveying less information about the subject in question.
There is quite literally nothing "woke" about using "they" to refer to someone in a gender neutral way. That term is really overused nowadays. Either way, I suppose "he/she" could be used instead if that really is an issue?
Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices
#94I went to the site and failed to understand what’s different from other Android distros to make the general claim of “support for EOL Android devices”. Isn’t it the same as LineageOS or whatever other distros you can find for each device at XDA? I thought I was going to find a site that found a way of running newer Android over the old one to not have to worry about drivers and such, but I found yet another distro wi…
> Bootloader relocking is restored and has been tested working on 23 devices and is available for 26 more. Verified boot is also restored on 36 of those devices and is enforcing once locked.
Edit: looks like almost all the devices with relocking support are Google / OnePlus / Fairphone, so it might not add anything in this regard to GrapheneOS. No workaround for the signing key issue, I guess.
They also seem to be doing some security hardening and blob removal, although I'm not sure how that would affect driver / device support.
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#95I am frustratingly blind to today's alternate OSes. Where does a lay-consumers even start? Do I buy a used, but well supported (by alt OSes) phone? Which one would that be? Do I attempt to use my existing phone?
For a while, I was trying on old phones. I had LineageOS on my Samsung Galaxy S2, and it had a lot of problems (camera did not work, it would sometimes get hot and reboot, etc). Not the best experience but it was fun to try when my S2 got old. Recently I feel like alt OSes have become really mature. I have been using a de-Googled /e/OS on a Fairphone 3+ for 1.5 years and I don't have anything to complain about the sy…
Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices
#96The problem with long term support for my Android phones has actually not been the fact that Android devices have incredibly short security update windows. That issue has been somewhat mitigated with the newer Google Pixel phones which have five years of security updates. The biggest issue for long term cell phone support is, even if we get an OS with a 10-year security update timeline like Rocky Linux, will the phon…
Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices
#97The problem with long term support for my Android phones has actually not been the fact that Android devices have incredibly short security update windows. That issue has been somewhat mitigated with the newer Google Pixel phones which have five years of security updates. The biggest issue for long term cell phone support is, even if we get an OS with a 10-year security update timeline like Rocky Linux, will the phon…
This, exactly. I have two ancient Nokia N900s that came out in 2009, runs a Debian variant natively and there's the Maemo Leste project that brings mainline Linux to the device (amazing!). However, is already useless as a phone in the USA. I also hear rumors European carriers will shutter their 3G networks soon; which is a shame. The hardware, while old and slow due to memory constraints, still works . I guess I shou…
Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices
#98Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m really confused by this - my iPhone 6 from 2014 has 4G LTE (and still gets security updates). What were you buying in 2018 that was 3G!?
There were a number of cheap Android devices that had LTE, but never had VoLTE enabled. Instead of allowing them to work as data only devices, most carriers just blacklisted them from their networks.
Now they have a phone whitelist restricted to (mostly) mainstream brands...
Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices
#99The tool https://gitlab.com/divested-mobile/cve_checker is fascinating; I've usually seen people attempting to bring needed drivers to a mainline kernel, but backporting security fixes to a vendor kernel does seem like a plausible way to get a lot of the benefit with less work.
Re: Show HN: DivestOS – Long-term support for end-of-life Android devices
#100The problem with long term support for my Android phones has actually not been the fact that Android devices have incredibly short security update windows. That issue has been somewhat mitigated with the newer Google Pixel phones which have five years of security updates. The biggest issue for long term cell phone support is, even if we get an OS with a 10-year security update timeline like Rocky Linux, will the phon…
Your laptop may be good, but it will probably only support some ancient insecure slow WiFi profiles.
Distributions start to drop old hardware. And there are always new CPU and other chip security bugs discovered, how do you get fixes for that into your system?