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Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

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Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

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Post by layer8 »

paxys wrote: post #60
wilg wrote: post #55

Folks, just to set expectations here, it’s gonna be like this for a couple years. He’s going to be nanomanaging the company and learning from scratch the entire business and doing wild shit until he figures it out. And it’s going to be chaos internally and leaks left and right and ten crazy stories like this a week. The signal to noise ratio is gonna be ridiculously low and everyone’s going to get whipped up in every…

The drama is literally the only reason I'm on Twitter right now. Better than any TV show. The moment things get back to "normal" I'm deleting the app.

Now I finally understand Elon's secret strategy to keep Twitter engagement up.

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Post by jsnell »

divided wrote: post #74
KptMarchewa wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was no "fine for pulling out of the deal".

Where have you been? I think you may be uninformed on this. Here's some details: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/26/technology/twitter-musk-b... . Later when Elon sought to pull out of the deal, Twitter threatened to go to court to enforce that $1B fee, which led to the buyout proceeding.

As per your own link, the situations where that deal could be broken and the fee would be applicable were very limited (Musk not getting financing, Twitter finding a higher bidder). Musk changing his mind was not one of those situations, it was a binding deal.

Twitter did not sue for the $1b, but for specific perfomance, i.e. closing the deal.

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Post by meibo »

snowwrestler wrote: post #49
meibo wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon turned off the 2fa microservice to reduce complexity: https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/15922599381095219...

I logged into Twitter with 2FA about an hour ago (hours after this tweet). “Don’t believe everything you read on the Internet.” — Abraham Lincoln

I don't need to, I tried it when I saw this initially. I don't however do it every 15 minutes to see if it's still the case.

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

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Post by jmyeet »

IANAL but I follow some: fired and laid off employees may have a recourse beyond the WARN Act, state legislation regarding layoffs and even unlawful dismissal.

The contract Elon signed to acquire TWitter included promises on layoffs and the treatment of employees. This makes the employees what are called "third-party beneficiaries to the contract".

This is to say that in addition to legal restrictions on firings and layoffs these people can potentially sue under Elon's own acquisition contract.

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

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Post by summerlight »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #59
summerlight wrote: post #23

Looks like Elon tries to act like a chief architect of Twitter[1] even though he still seems to confuse that 1000 RPCs are serially sent[2] from the app[3]? Why don't we do a public technical design interview session for Elon to see if he is technically competent enough for architecting one of the most famous social network? :sigh: [1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800 [2] https://twitter.com/el…

Related to this discussion, Elon made a tweet saying there are over 1200 microservices. Are there any tech talks or explanation videos showing a rough outline of what all these microservices do or how they're broken up? It's difficult to wrap my head around that amount.

I'm not very surprised because even Google has tens of monolithic services that needs to be gone through just for a single search/ad query.

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Post by paxys »

jimmywetnips wrote: post #67
fnordpiglet wrote: post #5

He fired another one: https://twitter.com/sachee/status/1592308273071681536?s=46&t... If he fires all the engineers with a bad attitude it’ll just be the product managers left.

Amazing stuff. I thought I knew how to risk my career just for the sake of comedy, this lass shows that she's varsity and I'm not even cleaning the jv bench

I respect it. If you're a Twitter employee fed up with this stuff and typing up a boring resignation email, why not instead say screw it and get publicly fired by the big man himself after hurting his ego on Twitter..

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

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Post by divided »

tuyguntn wrote: post #41

I feel like engineers behaved like a jerk in this case. Maybe Elon's tweet about 1000 RPC calls were wrong, but they could politely point it out, try to help to the company by joining internal discussions about what's going on. But no, instead they started attacking the current owner of company publicly (good or bad, doesn't matter, he is now owner of company, if you don't like it just resign professionally).

I see this differently. Elon attacked the credibility of engineers at Twitter by publicly making up a lie about their incompetence and shouting it out with the biggest megaphone in the world.

Imagined another way, if your manager went to Twitter to announce to 1,000 followers how bad a snippet of your code was, he'd be a jerk.

When your boss is abusive towards you like this, it's a good thing to stand up for yourself and/or your peers. I imagine each Twitter engineer responding knew there was a good chance they'd be fired for it.

Now if they handled it the "professional" route you mentioned, that's fine, too. But when Elon started the mudslinging with a lie, I'm not going to begrudge someone telling the truth with some sass.

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

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Post by fragmede »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #59
summerlight wrote: post #23

Looks like Elon tries to act like a chief architect of Twitter[1] even though he still seems to confuse that 1000 RPCs are serially sent[2] from the app[3]? Why don't we do a public technical design interview session for Elon to see if he is technically competent enough for architecting one of the most famous social network? :sigh: [1] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1592177471654604800 [2] https://twitter.com/el…

Related to this discussion, Elon made a tweet saying there are over 1200 microservices. Are there any tech talks or explanation videos showing a rough outline of what all these microservices do or how they're broken up? It's difficult to wrap my head around that amount.

for example, there's one service to say that you have new messages, and then there's a different service that counts how many messages you have. or one microservice who's only job is to send sms 2fa codes. apply that level of division to the whole site and 1200 seems entirely possible.

Re: Twitter Android app dev fired: Guess it's official now.

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Post by nickthegreek »

divided wrote: post #74
KptMarchewa wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was no "fine for pulling out of the deal".

Where have you been? I think you may be uninformed on this. Here's some details: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/26/technology/twitter-musk-b... . Later when Elon sought to pull out of the deal, Twitter threatened to go to court to enforce that $1B fee, which led to the buyout proceeding.

The $1b fine was not available to just use to back out of the deal. You are misinformed on this.
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