Presumably intentional? Whether right or wrong on tech that was never a survivable pissing contest
Well if you thought radical transparency and public debate were still on the table it would have been, but this is further proof it is not.
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Nah. Everywhere I've ever worked, you can tell any boss things they don't want to hear. What you have to do is do it respectfully . I've told directors and VPs multiple levels up from me that I thought they were wrong about something in large meetings. I said it to their face and respectfully, and that was fine. As long as you understand your place and don't publicly trash your boss, there's normally no problem. The…
It's not about that, it's that you have to think and put a lot of mental energy into "being respectful" rather than just being straight forwards and direct. You have to wait for the right time etc. Giving feedback has higher risk and cost to it than it would otherwise be so why even do it? While I'm not claiming it's an immediate crisis, I think it is and will continue to become a net long term loss for corporate Ame…
I think more than anything else Musk is teaching people to never apply to any company he owns under any circumstances. This isn't going to be treated as a role model for managers. It's going to be a model of exactly what not to do as a CEO, not just on HR issues, but everything else.
I seriously don't see Twitter ever being able to hire a worker of any significant skill level ever again.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nah. Everywhere I've ever worked, you can tell any boss things they don't want to hear. What you have to do is do it respectfully . I've told directors and VPs multiple levels up from me that I thought they were wrong about something in large meetings. I said it to their face and respectfully, and that was fine. As long as you understand your place and don't publicly trash your boss, there's normally no problem. The…
It's not about that, it's that you have to think and put a lot of mental energy into "being respectful" rather than just being straight forwards and direct. You have to wait for the right time etc. Giving feedback has higher risk and cost to it than it would otherwise be so why even do it? While I'm not claiming it's an immediate crisis, I think it is and will continue to become a net long term loss for corporate Ame…
Funny that Musk was touting "free speech" as one of his reasons for wanting to buy Twitter in the first place, innit?
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#44On a scale of 0 (hiring at Twitter is as easy as possible) to 100 (Twitter can never hire anyone again) how bad is it now that Musk fired an employee in front of millions of users, especially since the employee was calling out obvious bullshit?
TBH I was already pretty against working under Musk because of his previous speech and behavior.
I think this was basically another instance of the same. It certainly cements my views.
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I just want to say that this attitude towards employment will likely be part of the eventual downfall of the USA. The reason ? It's too risky to tell your boss the truth so when things are going bad so it's easier just not to say anything, I noticed my American colleagues will often not say anything to "the grand leader", they will maybe even encourage stupidity. Where as when I worked in Europe, that doesn't happen.…
It’s been this way in the USA a long, long time for non-Union jobs (maybe since our founding? I don’t know). So whether you agree or disagree with employment-at-will, I don’t see how it will be the downfall of the USA given the history.
Rest assured you're absolutely right in that this one thing won't be the downfall of anything. It may well contribute in some part to the eventual downfall of certain people / things, however…
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#46the UX is so messed up you have to put in significant effort to understand wtf any of this meant. Luckily, someone pieced together the actual conversation in 4 screenshots in the thread there. What a terrible app!
I might be wrong but I think his responses has been shadow banned, they do not appear in his profile or replies section yet they show up if you follow a direct link to them. Interesting. Anyone more knowledgable care to explain what's happening here?
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#47Presumably intentional? Whether right or wrong on tech that was never a survivable pissing contest
Well if you thought radical transparency and public debate were still on the table it would have been, but this is further proof it is not.
Free speech as in it will be published, and free speech as your CEO will let you correct him in public at any point, are quite different things. This tweeting got into the manager-employee dynamic and that's not normally a free-speech zone.
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#49When will elon get that this stuff isn't a cool "haha high five bro nice one" moment, and is instead just a sad display of managerial power, akin to sending a dish back to the kitchen in a restaurant.
It probably is one to his peer group.
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#50While this all maybe entertaining to some people , it all just seems highly unprofessional. Right things can be done in a professional and respectful way , not make it all a big show unless they are desperate ways for the company to attract eyeballs and money.