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Re: Ukraïnśka Latynka

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Post by app4soft »

cheypen wrote: post #2

Is this an official variant, if it exists at all? I assume one can come up with different ways of transforming Cyrillic alphabet into Latin one.

In latest version it is possible to choose official ("ДСТУ 9112:2021") or any other exists variants[0] — in extension option (click on extension icon on browser toolbar):

> Switch Latinization system in the popup window.[1]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Latin_alphabet

[1] https://paiv.github.io/latynka/en/

Re: Ukraïnśka Latynka

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Post by yeputons »

cheypen wrote: post #2

Is this an official variant, if it exists at all? I assume one can come up with different ways of transforming Cyrillic alphabet into Latin one.

There are lots of them, you can choose in the settings: https://paiv.github.io/latynka/en/

Note that rules are different for different languages, even among those using Cyrillic. E.g. letter "г" is "h" in Ukrainian, but "g" in Russian. "И" in Russian is "i", which is a letter on its own in Ukrainian, while Ukrainian "И" is transliterated to "y".

Re: Ukraïnśka Latynka

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Post by type0 »

cheypen wrote: post #2

Is this an official variant, if it exists at all? I assume one can come up with different ways of transforming Cyrillic alphabet into Latin one.

It is standardized https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Latin_alphabet and useful for beginner learners and naming places for foreigners

Official Ukrainian should be written in Cyrillic, it's unimaginable that it would ever change like the ongoing effort in Kazakhstan https://cabar.asia/en/latin-alphabet-for-kazakhstan-turkific...

Re: Ukraïnśka Latynka

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Post by app4soft »

yeputons wrote: post #4
cheypen wrote: post #2

Is this an official variant, if it exists at all? I assume one can come up with different ways of transforming Cyrillic alphabet into Latin one.

There are lots of them, you can choose in the settings: https://paiv.github.io/latynka/en/ Note that rules are different for different languages, even among those using Cyrillic. E.g. letter "г" is "h" in Ukrainian, but "g" in Russian. "И" in Russian is "i", which is a letter on its own in Ukrainian, while Ukrainian "И" is transliterated to "y".

FTR, SSOU 9112:2021 (ukr. "DSTU 9112:2021", transl. "DSTU 9112:2021") is a an actual official State Standard of Ukraine for official transliteration:

> From 01.04.2022, the national standard DSTU 9112: 2021 comes into force: «Cyrillic-Latin transliteration and Latin-Cyrillic retransliteration of Ukrainian texts. Writing rules». The standard was proposed and developed by specialists of the State Scientific and Technical Library of Ukraine and the Technical Committee 144 “Information and Documentation”.[0]

According it there are two variants inside this standard (see comparison[1]):

1. ДСТУ 9112:2021, Система А (system A) — letters represented with "Basic Latin" and some characters with diacritical marks from "Latin-1 Supplement", "Latin Extended-A" Unicode Blocks):

1.1. Київ, Україна - Kyїv, Ukraїna

2. ДСТУ 9112:2021, Система Б (system B) — all letters represented using only "Basic Latin" Unicode Block:

2.1. Київ, Україна - Kyjiv, Ukrajina

[0] https://dntb.gov.ua/news/%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%86%D1%96%D0%BE%D0%B...

[1] https://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%A1%D0%A2%D0%A3_9112:...

Re: Ukraïnśka Latynka

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Post by bcatanzaro »

This will never happen, but I wish we could go the other direction and write Polish and Czech/Slovak in Cyrillic. They would be so much easier to read! SZCZ is only one letter!

Re: Ukraïnśka Latynka

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Post by gerdesj »

I'd be grateful if someone would explain what this really means to us Roman alphabet users.

An npm trove on Github isn't ringing any bells. A sad Google translate doesn't work either.

Please explain.

Re: Ukraïnśka Latynka

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Post by atdrummond »

I understand why this is being done. I selfishly hope it doesn’t take off; I find Cyrillic much easier to read than any Latin transliterations, likely simply due to my brain expending extra resources to recall the Slavic languages’ much more consistent phonetic pronunciation rules instead of the various English alternative pronunciations for said string of Latin characters.
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