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Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by ceejayoz »

jaywalk wrote: post #90
bluGill wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> long term testing data is actually in before injecting something into their bodies. You don't get a choice about COVID getting into your body, and that is far worse than whatever possible long term effects of the vaccine might be. There may be concerning long term effects, but keep persepcive, the worst possible case is still better than the known case of COVID. And of course long term studies on COVID are also sti…

> You don't get a choice about COVID getting into your body, and that is far worse than whatever possible long term effects of the vaccine might be. You don't know that, because we don't know what the "long term effects of the vaccine" actually are.

That's true in both directions.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by specto »

This is anecdotal, and I still plan to get the latest booster soon, but I have had pain in my left chest since the first covid vaccine. I went to a doctor who ran an EKG but they said everything was functioning correctly. Maybe someone knows if I should get a second opinion? I can no longer sleep on my left side since then as it causes the pain to increase, so I don't believe it is related to myocarditis.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by nradov »

entwife wrote: post #394

It is possible to get a COVID antibody test to determine whether you personally have sufficient remaining antibodies, or would benefit from another vaccine. In Barcelona, it is possible for under 100 euros.

There is no evidence-based clinical standard to determine what level of antibodies is "sufficient". Such tests are not useful for most patients and fail to account for cellular immunity. I am not discouraging anyone from getting a booster but the timing should be based on other criteria.

https://peterattiamd.com/covid-part2/

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Post by throwaway5959 »

Server6 wrote: post #83
throwaway5959 wrote: post #11

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Still glad I took my chances with the vaccine: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/01/11/brie...

I watched one of my best friends choke on his own lungs and die of COVID last year. He'd be alive if he had gotten the vaccine.

I’m sorry to hear that.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by Izkata »

calculatte wrote: post #343
AustinDev wrote: post #174

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Just a meta comment. This exact comment 1 year ago would have been downvoted until it was dead. However, much of the evidence for this was available at that time. I sadly think we'll continue to see excess deaths climb over the coming years particularly in the US. I'm glad I only got the J&J shot way back when it came out and avoided 3+ rounds of Pfizer or Moderna primary and boosters.

It seems the only difference between conspiracy theory and accepted fact is about 18 months now.

Depending on the exact claim it's often more like 12 months. A few even made it down to 6 months (affecting periods, for example) and I think one was as low as 2 months.

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by pantalaimon »

threatofrain wrote: post #375
throwaway09223 wrote: post #139

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A two week hospital stay is orders of magnitude more than $10k, so presumably the $10k representes the out of pocket portion of the care. I suspect the maximum annual out of pocket.

A two week stay at the hospital may have amounted to over $170k at the optimistically low end.

How?! Did they have to build an extra annex to the building just for that?

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by TurkishPoptart »

ivraatiems wrote: post #217
TurkishPoptart wrote: post #203

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I'm against social distancing because there is no scientific basis or justification for it. Scientists just went on TV and talked about an idea they pulled out from their behinds. I guess that makes me on the right for not believing everything that was presented to me on television, unlike my family, who are on the left.

If "stay away from people who might be sick" is an idea you think scientists made up just now, I'm not sure what to tell you. It's not that big a stretch to "anyone could be sick because we don't know how this disease works yet, so stay away from everyone." Not advocating for social distancing as a policy at this point in time, just saying, it made a lot of sense from a risk-prevention perspective at the time. But ag…

>If "stay away from people who might be sick" is an idea you think scientists made up just now, I'm not sure what to tell you. It's not that big a stretch to "anyone could be sick because we don't know how this disease works yet, so stay away from everyone."

that wasn't the guidance. It was stand 2 meters from anyone, even if no one is sick.

[1] https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/572926-gottli...

Re: Myocarditis after Covid vaccination: Research on possible long-term risks begins

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Post by pandeiro »

VBprogrammer wrote: post #379
tinus_hn wrote: post #361

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So why are the companies in the article researching the risks if according to you there clearly are no risks? Do you know better than the manufacturers?

Please try to keep the level of discussion one step above junior school. Otherwise there is no point in us communicating further. I didn't say there are no risks but those risks must necessarily be very low, as otherwise with a sample size of billions of doses issued even effects in the 1 in a million would be readily identifiable.

Re: 'the level of discussion'

What you posted was condescending and demonstrative of a large blindspot as to the degree of adverse event surveillance actually being carried out.

Hope that helps you achieve the tone of discussion you're aiming for, in the future.

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