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Re: Mozilla's BrowserID (single sign-on for the web) is live

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Anything that means I won't have to use yet another password is a good thing. However I fail to see how this is useful: no sites use it, because no users use it. Let's not muddy the waters. Use openid. No excuses.

Am I the only one who has a dozen of OpenIDs, none of which I remember?

Yes you are. Because others use the same openid in every openid enabled site where you open yet another openid account.

Re: Mozilla's BrowserID (single sign-on for the web) is live

#22
post #4

What does BrowserID do that every existing OpenID provider cannot? The BrowserID FAQ says the architecture is "decentralized", but login relies on Mozilla's browserid.org server.

The goal is that others support the verification portion (hence it being decentralized). The browserid.org site is required today because others haven't implemented support on their backends.

Hope that changes sooner than later.

Re: Mozilla's BrowserID (single sign-on for the web) is live

#23
I'm working on a webapp that will be used by not-so-tech-savvy working people and this could be an interesting way to subscribe to the service without implementing generic openid (i think most of them wont understand it) or facebook/twitter etc.. login (it's a service for businessman). I must check if it's more difficult to implement than an all-internal email subscription and verification process.

Re: Mozilla's BrowserID (single sign-on for the web) is live

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post #23

I'm working on a webapp that will be used by not-so-tech-savvy working people and this could be an interesting way to subscribe to the service without implementing generic openid (i think most of them wont understand it) or facebook/twitter etc.. login (it's a service for businessman). I must check if it's more difficult to implement than an all-internal email subscription and verification process.

BrowserID is super easy to implement. It's 8 lines of Javascript and about 8 lines of code on the backend to verify that a user owns an email address.

I've implemented it on OpenPhoto and absolutely love it.

Re: Mozilla's BrowserID (single sign-on for the web) is live

#26
A lot of questions here revolve around how this is different from OpenID and single sign-on solutions like Google Accounts or Facebook Connect. Here's a rough list (may be incomplete or inaccurate by now; while I work for Mozilla, I'm not involved in this project):

* federated (like OpenID)

* open standard (like OpenID)

* no passwords / no typing / no memorizing (e.g. like FB Connect)

* possibility of browsers providing an integrated experience (technically possible with previous solutions, but no browser has done this so far -- in the case of OpenID for a very good reason IMHO)

* anonymity/choice of identities (like OpenID, definitely unlike e.g. FB Connect)

* no exposure to identity provider (this is unlike any existing solutions; if you log into a site, your OpenID provide, Facebook, Google, etc. will know which site it was; not with BrowserID!)

Check out Dan and Ben giving a nice demo of the BrowserID user experience: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x45Nt1fOMM. No passwords, no typing, and anonymity where desired.

If you're interested in the nitty gritty details, Lloyd explains the cryptographic assertions that actually let sites verify your identity: http://lloyd.io/how-browserid-works

(EDIT: format bullet points)

Re: Mozilla's BrowserID (single sign-on for the web) is live

#27
post #7

Anything that means I won't have to use yet another password is a good thing. However I fail to see how this is useful: no sites use it, because no users use it. Let's not muddy the waters. Use openid. No excuses.

This is a more pragmatic approach than openid. Most users have a secondary email for logins anyway, and browserid makes switching a snap. I think it will catch on, mainly because there s nothing new for users to learn, and everyone has an email addr

Re: Mozilla's BrowserID (single sign-on for the web) is live

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post #16
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like Firefox is not going to support OpenID, so any site that wants to take advantage of browser support will have to adopt BrowserID.

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Facebook and Twitter are owned by companies and have a single point of failure. Many users won't use sites that only provide these as a login method for various reasons (they don't like social media, etc).

OpenID seems to be difficult for non-technical users to grasp. They don't understand what it is or the fact that they probably already have it. Even technical users can have issues (what OpenID login did I use, which of my multiple current Google accounts are being used, etc).

BrowserID is being advertised as the easier alternative for users and developers I think.

BrowserID is not Firefox specific. The JavaScript shim works across a number of browsers.

Re: Mozilla's BrowserID (single sign-on for the web) is live

#29
post #7

Anything that means I won't have to use yet another password is a good thing. However I fail to see how this is useful: no sites use it, because no users use it. Let's not muddy the waters. Use openid. No excuses.

This is a more pragmatic approach than openid. Most users have a secondary email for logins anyway, and browserid makes switching a snap. I think it will catch on, mainly because there s nothing new for users to learn, and everyone has an email addr

Most users have a secondary email for logins anyway

It seems to me the opposite is true. What is your source for this?

Re: Mozilla's BrowserID (single sign-on for the web) is live

#30
I like the idea of this, seems like a much better solution than Open ID, and I've never been a fan of sign in with Facebook/Twitter/Google/etc.

However I'm a little disappointed that they tell you to add it as a blocking (synchronous) JavaScript include in the head of your document.

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