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Crypto exchange AAX suspends withdrawals

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#611

How likely is this cascade to reach Binance?

anyone who claims to know is lying to you. historically speaking, a good heuristic would be: not your keys not your coins, no matter what the exchange is. if you control your own keys then you don't need to wonder about whether binance is solvent or not.

> if you control your own keys then you don't need to wonder about whether binance is solvent or not.

That's not really true though, is it? The value of those coins is directly tied to the existence and function of (enough) exchanges to facilitate their use. Enough exchanges fold, and your coins won't be worth the bits they're taking up.

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#612
post #570

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Coinbase Rewards You are referring to staking. FTX was giving a static yield on deposits. The funding for this came from their marketing budget. Very different from what Coinbase does. >"staking" == crappy loans / bonds business. Staking is not a loan. It is a component of proof of stake networks to maintain security. Coinbase provides stacking services, but all they do is pass the yield onto the customer while taki…

> Staking is not a loan. Yes it is. You give your money over to another organization, and that organization promises a % yield / APY in return. You aren't allowed the money back until later. Its totally a bond. > Some token networks may market a mechanism as "staking" when it's just a way to keep people from selling. That's a different topic. I'm feeling some "no true Scotsman" fallacy here. If those guys call it sta…

Look up how consensus works on proof of stake blockchains. Specifically Tendermint chains, Ethereum, Tezos, Algorand.

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Forgive my ignorance but it seems that one major problem with crypto-exchanges is that they don't necessarily have any assets other than the crypto that has been deposited there, which means all overheads (which I am assuming for some of these guys is $Ms/year) can only come from trading crypto unless they are charging reasonable money for the privilege of using their exchanges. In the FIAT world, banks make tonnes o…

An exchange shouldn't count deposited crypto as their asset. It is an asset of their customer. I do not think the actual problem here is crypto exchanges being unprofitable. Even if a crypto exchange goes under, it could (and frankly should ) still be able to go under gracefully, e.g. letting all customers withdraw their assets for a month (and E-Mailing private keys as a last resort). The issue here is crypto exchan…

An exchange facilitates trades between two parties and should not hold client assets at all, not even custodial basis.

A clearing house settles trades between two counter parts often acting as counterpart to both sides of the trade for a nominal fee. Some clearing houses also hold performance bonds (think of margin on futures).

For instance, NYSE uses National Securities Clearing Corporation (NSCC) which is a subsidary of the Depositary Trust Clearing Corporation (DTCC). DTCC is a private company owned by many banks and brokers.

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#615

Not super knowledgeable on this but Decentralized exchanges exist why are they not more widely used by the crypto community?

They are widely used and process billions per day.[1] There are other problems with DeFi: protocol risk, transaction fees, speed, UX. They are newer and less known than CEXes and most users who buy and hold crypto on FTX or BlockFi do not know how to use the blockchain. Most of these problems can be overcome, like see L2 development, but it will take some time. [1] https://defillama.com/chain/Ethereum

Could you elaborate on what exactly is the "protocol risk" in DEX?

Re: Crypto exchange AAX suspends withdrawals

#616

Not super knowledgeable on this but Decentralized exchanges exist why are they not more widely used by the crypto community?

The entire point of a cryptocurrency is to be a decentralized electronic currency.

Centralized exchanges exist to handle the problems with decentralized electronic currency.

If there was a good way to decentralize a centralized exchange, that solution would just be part of the decentralized currency and the exchange wouldn't need to exist.

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#617
post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the correct take, and why American regulators need to address crypto sooner rather than later.

But the WHOLE point of crypto was to avoid governmental control. If the government is regulating it that means they can control it. And it becomes completely worthless. If you want digital gold as an inflation hedge you can literally buy a GLD ETF. It gives you digital shares in actual GOLD.

There's nothing you can invent which can be beyond government control. If government cares to control something, it will.

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#618

Can someone actually explain what the intrinsic use of coins is supposed to be (aside from speculating). Their value is so volatile they suck as actual currency, not to mention if you were the guy that spent 10,000 bitcoins on a pizza back in the day you'd feel pretty stupid about your 300 million dollar pizza. They're not even particularly good for illegal purchases -- you have to know what you're doing to keep your…

I find it helpful to think about blockchains as the next step in the fintech ladder. Imagine you want to represent ownership of a company, i.e. stock. You don't need electricity to do that. You can accept orders in person, record ownership in a book, issue paper certificates, etc. However, when the mainframe was invented, it became easier to track ownership electronically. Using electronic transactions also made it possible for many more people to trade and expanded the types of products offered, e.g. options became commonplace. Now, the blockchain has arrived. It does everything a mainframe at a large financial institution can do, but it opens up the platform so that more complicated transactions can happen and democratizes the platform so that anyone with a computer can write their own smart contract.

What we're seeing now is akin to the the dotcom boom / bust in the late 90s and early 2000s. A new technology has appeared on the scene which leads to two things:

1) People get ahead of themselves. In the late 90s, people could envision all the cool things the internet would unlock and tried to start businesses to realize the potential. Many of those business ideas would be viable today, but the tech wasn't there at the time leading to a lot of empty promises being sold. Today, people can envision how the blockchain will lead to the securitization of everything, but the tech isn't quite there to make the transition yet.

2) As with any optimism boom, there will always be crooks ready to separate a fool from their money.

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post #562

Can someone actually explain what the intrinsic use of coins is supposed to be (aside from speculating). Their value is so volatile they suck as actual currency, not to mention if you were the guy that spent 10,000 bitcoins on a pizza back in the day you'd feel pretty stupid about your 300 million dollar pizza. They're not even particularly good for illegal purchases -- you have to know what you're doing to keep your…

Volatility aside, stuff like Bitcoin _is_ already used for payments, albeit in a much lower volume than the crypto proponents wish it would be. I pay contractors now and then with BTC, particularly in South America and Africa, and works MUCH better than SWIFT (even if I have to convert from USD to BTC and they have to convert from BTC to whatever on their side). Projects like Ripple also have their use - it's mostly…

Cryptocurrency is Pandora's Box and the last thing to escape it will be decentralization.

Everything you listed is the cost of decentralization and making sure a few powerful players can be held in check. Before someone chimes in and says things are still "centralized" in crypto, things are slowly progressing to decentralization. And even if it takes decades, some industries like payment processing are the ideal case for crypto (Pornhub only takes Bitcoin for payment).

Decentralization has a cost, but understanding if it will even work has a even bigger cost.

Re: Crypto exchange AAX suspends withdrawals

#620
post #9

In the current climate, I'm left wondering who still has their crypto on exchanges. Which maybe thats the problem - people withdrawing funds causing even more bank runs.

I had mine on Gemini, which I actually trust as the most reliable exchange. I don't expect them to run into trouble[0] as they've submitted to NY finance regulations and haven't dabbled in obvious scams like Tether.

However I'm taking them off today on principle. I bought-to-hold because I think the tech is cool and I like the 'emotion' of having an investment to motivate me to keep an eye on the space. But if I really think the tech is interesting at the protocol level and think it might find future application, I should embrace self-custody, which is the whole point.

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