Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers
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#32To be fair, this was normal at the peak too. (as well as ghosting after doing 3 rounds)
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#33Why? Because even if you are a good candidate, hiring is not as easy as people think.
Among the many challengues we have I can list the following:
1. The people interested in your profile have minimal influence in the process,
2. There are people who are always chasing for the shiny new object (or person, in this case),
3. There is a sea of resumes in our hands, and we pick the best, but they want the world and lose them during negotiations, and the ones at the bottom of the list who really want the job, move on because the process to get to them takes too long (several months),
4. People over estimate their qualifications. Their abilities may be good, but they write over the top accomplishments in their resumes that are hard to believe, at least without proof, and they are the first ones to get rejected,
5. HR interferes too much in the process. They sometimes change the job requirements, sometimes ignore candidates that we explicitely tell them to follow up with, sometimes extend meaningless offers just to keep potentially good candidates in the hook (people with offers at other Big Co.), sometimes force candidates to accept offers without a signed paper, so on and so forth. Obviously, good candidates get fed up with this and decline/renege the offer, we lose them, and the people below them too because the negotiation took too long (3-5 months),
6. I really want to hire motivated individuals, and I know many people like me across different teams, but we lose motivation over time because of all the roadblocks, and the cycle(s) described above repeats.
The whole process is kind of silly. I have reviewed hundreds of resume from people who are doing amazing work at other companies, but we reject them for very small things. Only two of approximately 20 referrals got an offer, and I am 100% sure that all of those referrals are as good or better than me (facepalm).
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#34Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers
#35All of these things together as a business owner, going into holiday times; make me keep the mindset that hiring anyone right now for a non-essential position can probably wait until I can understand better what our company's financial picture is going to look like.
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#36I wonder if this is related to the transition to remote work. A lot of companies are passing on comparatively expensive US developers and getting the same level of experience for 1/2 or 1/3 the cost in other countries.
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#37Re: Tell HN: Employers are not desperate to hire developers
#38Anyone know about ML? It used to be a different job market, I was thinking of moving into that area but now not sure if its bubble has been popped or always will be a premium.
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#39I've got ~20 years in the industry, including startup-sized companies, medium sized companies and FAANGs. Every job hunt for me is still around 100 applications : 10 interviews : 1 offer. These ratios have remained pretty reliable through bull and bear hiring markets.
I suspect people for whom "jobs are falling off trees" are rarer than HN commenters might have you believe.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
Put your resume on Indeed and Dice, and keep a google voice number, you will get a lot of calls from "offshore recruiters" working for primary and secondary vendors.
How legitimate are those? Do they have real jobs? I've just been ignoring anything from an Indian sounding name as they seemed to me to be scams.
Even primary vendors have outsourced their recruiting to India.