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Re: Show HN: Open-source alternative to Retool

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Post by chrismorgan »

xnorswap wrote: post #11

https://github.com/openblocks-dev/openblocks/blob/1c5846d049... Disappointing to see Firefox flagged as a "Not supported browser".

> Your current browser may have compatibility issues. For a better user experience, it is recommended to use the latest version of the Chrome browser.

Huh, it’s been a few years since I saw a banner like this other than on a tech demo that was deliberately using cutting-edge stuff. Hmm… honestly, probably eight or ten years ago.

Quite apart from the fact of the banner’s existence at all, its wording displeases me. Recommending a single browser in such a situation is bad.

Re: Show HN: Open-source alternative to Retool

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Post by afhammad »

rubenfiszel wrote: post #18
afhammad wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've not used Foundry myself but I've been given a demo of it fully implemented at a company. I agree that the Retool comparison is only a small part of what Foundry offers, and that's my point, I don't know of any open source alternative that comes close to Foundry. They overlap in the sense that they are both tools that can be used as the back-office / operating system of a business, to varying degrees.

It's an interesting discussion. I of course agree with the sentiment and am convinced of the need for an open-source "operating systems" for enterprise and that's where we draw our inspiration from. However there is a big risk of both bloat and doing everything but not very well. Foundry relies on Spark to do the actual ETL so they can focus on doing the products on top, the most interesting one is the integration wi…

agreed. I'm gonna checkout windmill when i get a chance, thanks!

Re: Show HN: Open-source alternative to Retool

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Post by chrismorgan »

londons_explore wrote: post #19
xnorswap wrote: post #11

https://github.com/openblocks-dev/openblocks/blob/1c5846d049... Disappointing to see Firefox flagged as a "Not supported browser".

It's opensource. Build it, test it, send any fixes necessary, add a few CI tests to verify it keeps working, and then add it to the supported list.

No, just remove the banner and check, it’s totally misguided considering how far back their baseline apparently is. It’s a bad implementation of a bad concept.

Re: Show HN: Open-source alternative to Retool

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Post by alvis »

xnorswap wrote: post #17
rubenfiszel wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried quickly the app builder with Firefox and it seemed to mostly work fine. I would bet it's just that the devs use chrome and didn't have time to test extensively all their advanced features on all browsers.

What advanced features would be supported by a 3 year old Safari, a 4 year old Chrome, but not by Firefox? It's a kind of laziness that does the open web great harm by putting unnecessary barriers in front of Firefox users when they shouldn't be there. Feature detection for any newer APIs is far better. If you know you rely on a particular API set then you can test for precisely that. Otherwise let browsers be instea…

It's unfair to call the dev lazy on this ground. Even modern browsers are far better than the old days, there remain many discrepancies between browsers and they are still hard to come up with solutions that fit all platforms.

Making a static web page work on different browsers is much easier than making a web app work on all the browsers. For a web app, even 1% of the API doesn't work, the whole app is a failure. Can you accept an app only work 99% of the time?

I've no idea what makes it incompatible with Firefox, but without knowing the reason, it's an offence to call it laziness.

Re: Show HN: Open-source alternative to Retool

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Post by neon_balcony »

xnorswap wrote: post #11

https://github.com/openblocks-dev/openblocks/blob/1c5846d049... Disappointing to see Firefox flagged as a "Not supported browser".

Hi, co-founder of Openblocks here.

Sorry about Firefox flagging issue, currently we are on a very tight schedule on developing new features, so we only do a thorough test on Chrome then. We welcome our community to give us feedback about browser compatibility issues and we'll fix this Firefox issue soon.

Re: Show HN: Open-source alternative to Retool

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Post by foxbee »

Multrex wrote: post #12

Is it stable? I really want to ditch appsmith, tried ToolJet but didn't hook me. Yours look promising, i hope you continue the development of it.

Have you tried Budibase? For reference, I am the cofounder of Budibase and we're planning 2023 so I am super-eager for feedback.

https://github.com/Budibase/budibase

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