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Clickbait title. Tether is only vaguely mentioned and there is nothing related to Tether operations- only to an employee at Tether.

While this article covers an interesting topic, the title is clearly an attempt to bandwagon on the "Tether is next" narrative while contributing nothing substantial to the conversation

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> Crypto has attracted almost every type of criminal under the sun This is actually quite a profound statement. Is there actually anything in human history that can come close to rivalling this ? We have everyone from teens promoting shitcoins on TikTok, to household celebrities like Matt Damon, to white collar criminals, to arguably VCs, all the way to nation states like Iran and North Korea.

I would give a pass to any celebrity that was paid to be in advertisements. They are paid to make an appearance and say lines convincingly. We don't have written accounts of the tulip craze but I would imagine there were a lot of nefarious activities underway then. This is more global and the movement of money is transparent but anonymous in some ways. I think a hard part for a criminal enterprise like a drug cartel…

> I would give a pass to any celebrity that was paid to be in advertisements. They are paid to make an appearance and say lines convincingly.

I disagree. It's super weird that we accept "well I was just doing it for the money" as an excuse from people who are often already insanely wealthy.

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Sure, I’m not stupid. I would turn around and sell it to some other fool. And thats the problem. There is honestly no price I could buy it at where I would be willing to hold.

>There is honestly no price I could buy it at where I would be willing to hold. Really no price? Even given the opportunity to buy at $10, you still wouldn't hold?

If you believe its value is going down you wouldn't want to hold at any purchase price.

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The western United States was pretty wild for a while until it was "tamed"

Incorrect. There was less violence overall in the wild west. Modern America has insane violence at much larger scales (inner city gang violence in Chicago, millions of civilians killed over the past 2 decades via Iraq, Drone programs, etc). The wild west was only wild because Hollywood needed a narrative.

You shouldn't be down voted, this is largely correct. High rates of violence in the "wild west" are a myth created by Hollywood.

https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=6182

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Crypto has attracted almost every type of criminal under the sun, to the detriment of 'regular' people who got conned into this stuff and is now left holding the bags. That German saying is on point and really sad.

> Crypto has attracted almost every type of criminal under the sun This is actually quite a profound statement. Is there actually anything in human history that can come close to rivalling this ? We have everyone from teens promoting shitcoins on TikTok, to household celebrities like Matt Damon, to white collar criminals, to arguably VCs, all the way to nation states like Iran and North Korea.

Doing the wild west days America had a bunch of what was called wildcat currencies issued by private banks with dubious backing in either non existing gold reserves or over inflated property holdings.

look up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wildcat_banking it's kind of an interesting period in finance that got kind of forgotten as it did not exactly end well.

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Sure, I’m not stupid. I would turn around and sell it to some other fool. And thats the problem. There is honestly no price I could buy it at where I would be willing to hold.

>There is honestly no price I could buy it at where I would be willing to hold. Really no price? Even given the opportunity to buy at $10, you still wouldn't hold?

Are you confident it won’t go to $5? I’m not.

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It's incredible that SBF was being touted by Sequoia, WEF, Fortune, chumming it up with Clinton and Blair in the Bahamas, getting meetings and kid glove treatment with the SEC, relatively glowing profile as a "do-gooder" by the NYT. All while FTX had a Chief Regulatory Officer who was basically a career white-collar criminal. It beggars belief that anyone who dug half an inch into this story wouldn't have seen 90,000…

Wait, wasn't the NYT supposed to take a very critical look at everything in "tech", as a matter of editorial policy? Why were they giving such a glowing (no pun intended!) endorsement of crypto, of all things? Something doesn't add up here.

I think crypto aligned itself more with finance in the last year or two. E.g. Super Bowl ads, big bank partnerships and that may influence how a company is covered. The culmination of this was Roose’s “Latecomer’s Guide to Crypto” which was generally uncritical.

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https://www.ft.com/content/428c7800-c72d-4c59-9940-4376fea6e... > Sam Bankman-Fried stormed on to the US political scene with multimillion-dollar donations that led lawmakers, particularly Democrats, to believe he was ushering in the next generation of donors. But in a matter of days, his business empire collapsed into bankruptcy and the prospect of millions more in donations evaporated. https://fortune.com/2022/11/1…

Sorry, why is this comment relevant to the parent? Because he donated money to Democrats it makes people still want to invest in cryptos, is that the message?

Don't blame crypto for a fraudulent organization that was more politically connected than almost any other organization.

If you want to complain about BTC, complain about BTC. FTX was not BTC.

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The western United States was pretty wild for a while until it was "tamed"

Incorrect. There was less violence overall in the wild west. Modern America has insane violence at much larger scales (inner city gang violence in Chicago, millions of civilians killed over the past 2 decades via Iraq, Drone programs, etc). The wild west was only wild because Hollywood needed a narrative.

Interesting. Do you have any sources of information to back that up? It contradicts my perception of things, and I would like to know if I've been operating under a faulty understanding. Example: according to this [1] article : per-capita murder rates were something on the order of 30/100000 in colonial times, 15/100000 in the "wild west" period compared to 6/100000 today.

[1] https://blogs.berkeley.edu/2010/06/16/a-crime-puzzle-violent...

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post #74

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Incorrect. There was less violence overall in the wild west. Modern America has insane violence at much larger scales (inner city gang violence in Chicago, millions of civilians killed over the past 2 decades via Iraq, Drone programs, etc). The wild west was only wild because Hollywood needed a narrative.

You shouldn't be down voted, this is largely correct. High rates of violence in the "wild west" are a myth created by Hollywood. https://www.sup.org/books/title/?id=6182

It was downvoted because it was an irrelevant, off topic rant. The question was about financial fraud, not violence.
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