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Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada

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Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada

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He uprooted his life, moved across the globe, then got laid off and is likely facing a prospect of having to leave Canada (not familiar with work visa types there). This sucks, and the fact "it was bound to happen" (which is incorrect, it's not a law of nature) does not absolve Meta.

Exactly what I was going to say.We need to have empathy every once in a while. 11K people being fired from Meta seems abstract but these are 11K families that have been at least temporarily disrupted.

Do we show empathy towards non-tech workers? Where being laid off is close to a death sentence? Most devs are in a very privileged position.

Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada

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I assume OP was in a situation where he was being threatened with being fired. Or at least that sounds like the situation he is alluding to.

Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada

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This story doesn't pass the smell test. Appears OP is from the netherlands, not a friendly country towards east europe, but I still don't see how people can end up on the streets in a country where by law they have equal rights (or is very cheap to return to home countries, and sue the abusive employer).

Easy. Here are the steps to follow: 1. Don't speak any language other than your own, especially not the one spoken in the country you are planning to work in. 2. Get your work and accommodation organized by the same company or person, trust him when he says that you need to pay X amount upfront for the accommodation, but you will get it back eventually. 3. Give your passport to the organizing company or person, so yo…

To me it sounds like a colossal policing failure in that country; almost as if this type of exploitation is tolerated. Wondering why the eu never bothers solving it, instead of just blaming the victims.

Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada

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Elon hate is strong on this site

It’s like the Trump hate, irrational and all encompassing.

Why do you think the trump hate is irrational? What is the main rational points and reasons you like Trump? Or at least, think that he is being unfairly treated, since that does not require liking/agreeing with him.

Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada

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> so many of the comments here that seem to lack even the most basic of human decency Reading them, so am I. There is no sign of empathy: that understanding of another individual, the ability to put oneself in someone else's shoes, that is fundamental to a healthy society and (IMO) personal integrity. I read a comment a few years ago that no-one thinks of themselves as a bad person. To yourself, you are always okay.…

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It sounds like you never had empathy to begin with.

First, getting vaccinated is indeed not just about your own protection but also about empathy.

Second, actual empathetic people don’t suddenly lose all their empathy and go into “got mine fuck you” mode the moment something doesn’t go their way.

Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada

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I'm horrified by so many of the comments here that seem to lack even the most basic of human decency. Allow me to fill people in for those who have never uprooted your life and moved across the world for a job. It is a massive commitment on the part of the employee, where you sell the majority of your earthly possessions, property, cars, etc. Then you go through an immigration process which even if its handled by FAA…

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Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada

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> So why does their management - which should be able to read the writing on the wall, since that's part of their job - not issue a strict hiring freeze [...] Why do they go from hiring to firing in the blink of an eye? They did have a hiring freeze, and didn't really go from hiring to firing in the blink of an eye: * In May they froze hiring for engineers and low-level data scientists. * In July they announced that…

Doesn't have to inevitable, though. They literally have all the data.

Literally, if we lived in a literally perfect world none would have to be literally fired either. Yet, here we literally are.

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Just relocated shouldn't protect them, but just hired should. Wouldn't it be smarter for Meta to cut one more far-below average employee, and give this unknown quantity a shot at succeeding?

> Just relocated shouldn't protect them, but just hired should. Obviously not. If they've just been hired it means that they are the least trained and least operational, and in any case that has no bearing on the continued existence of the role they were hired for.

Should as in 'logically' or 'in good sense' should, not 'legally' or 'physically' should.

Yes, they are immediately less operational than a long term mediocre employee, but their potential is much higher on average.

I'm assuming that it wasn't merely that entire roles were laid off, but something like some percentage of given roles were laid off.

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