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Wow - a lot of butthurt people here.
Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada
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Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada
#112Clearly the impact to a visa holders (especially new ones) is high. I would be curious if this something that can be insured against? Either as an employer to provide certainly in an uncertain jobs market, or as an employee about to relocate.
Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada
#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the description, I would assume Germany, since that's precisely what happens here. But I can also imagine Germany is not the only state that allows its companies to act like this.
Why would workers from Eastern Europe not have passports? "Eastern European" typically means EU-member states, with Ukraine being the exception even before the war (within reasonable distance, populous enough for recruiters to go to). EU-citizens don't need a residency permit, and they have access to the social system in Germany. They're often not informed about their rights and that should be improved, but "they end…
Ukraine isn’t the only eastern country that’s not in the EU. Belarus, Russia, Moldova, Turkey, and most of the former Yugoslavia (all but Croatia and Slovenia) are also in that group.
Whether Turkey or Russia count as “Eastern Europe” is I suppose debatable, but the other examples are unambiguous.
Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
> is likely facing a prospect of having to leave Canada (not familiar with work visa types there) Unless it changed in the last few years, Canadian work permits allow you to continue to reside in the country for the duration of their validity, even if you lose your employment. The vast majority of them are tied to an employer though, so even if you find another job, you need to go through the process again, which tak…
That is the thing: They can stay, but they can't work for someone else. No income makes it very difficult to stick around and look for a job. At least they get a severance package: It'd be worse without it.
Absolutely, I wasn't saying it's a good situation to be in, just that it doesn't legally force them to leave Canada immediately.
Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada
#115I'm horrified by so many of the comments here that seem to lack even the most basic of human decency. Allow me to fill people in for those who have never uprooted your life and moved across the world for a job. It is a massive commitment on the part of the employee, where you sell the majority of your earthly possessions, property, cars, etc. Then you go through an immigration process which even if its handled by FAA…
We understand the predicament and feel for this guy, but so what? This sort of thing happens and there is nothing wrong with a company doing that. There is no need to be overly dramatic or immature.
We can just hope that the company will provide a good level of support and that the person will be able to get back on their feet ASAP.
Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada
#116Earlier quoted context omitted.
>...Though it appears that you don't think any such stories should exist? Where did you get that idea from?
I mean your comments talk about how "everyone has it, why is this particular story news". Which makes it sound like you don't get the point of this specific story existing (sorry for poor grammar/wording).
The line of thought I am at least trying to present here is that we should have been talking about stories like this and making them well known that have been happening throughout the industry well before hitting MANGA companies.
Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada
#117I'm horrified by so many of the comments here that seem to lack even the most basic of human decency. Allow me to fill people in for those who have never uprooted your life and moved across the world for a job. It is a massive commitment on the part of the employee, where you sell the majority of your earthly possessions, property, cars, etc. Then you go through an immigration process which even if its handled by FAA…
So, you advocate that employees from abroad should have some sort of default lay-off protection? Why do you think this is fair?
Would it be fair to you if _all_ employees had a default lay-off protection ?
That would be for the best as well.
Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada
#118I'm horrified by so many of the comments here that seem to lack even the most basic of human decency. Allow me to fill people in for those who have never uprooted your life and moved across the world for a job. It is a massive commitment on the part of the employee, where you sell the majority of your earthly possessions, property, cars, etc. Then you go through an immigration process which even if its handled by FAA…
So, you advocate that employees from abroad should have some sort of default lay-off protection? Why do you think this is fair?
Fire the employee who has put in 10 years building the business up for you, has deep internal knowledge, knows their way around the maze of infrastructure instead?
Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean your comments talk about how "everyone has it, why is this particular story news". Which makes it sound like you don't get the point of this specific story existing (sorry for poor grammar/wording).
The line of thought I am at least trying to present here is that we should have been talking about stories like this and making them well known that have been happening throughout the industry well before hitting MANGA companies.
I fully agree with that. Though I probably misunderstood the way you were putting it.
Re: Meta fires a software engineer two days after he relocated from India to Canada
#120I'm horrified by so many of the comments here that seem to lack even the most basic of human decency. Allow me to fill people in for those who have never uprooted your life and moved across the world for a job. It is a massive commitment on the part of the employee, where you sell the majority of your earthly possessions, property, cars, etc. Then you go through an immigration process which even if its handled by FAA…
We understand the predicament and feel for this guy, but so what? This sort of thing happens and there is nothing wrong with a company doing that. There is no need to be overly dramatic or immature. We can just hope that the company will provide a good level of support and that the person will be able to get back on their feet ASAP.
Why do you think there is nothing wrong with a company doing that? Ethically? Legally?