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I mean, if it was just the title that happened, but actually the big layoffs coincided with the person moving from India to Canada, thus something like this was bound to happen. Do we really need to drum up animosity towards Meta that bad? (They already do it without needing to add a click bait twist on top..)
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Exactly what I was going to say.We need to have empathy every once in a while. 11K people being fired from Meta seems abstract but these are 11K families that have been at least temporarily disrupted.
I have been laid off, or close to being laid off in that I had to leave, something like 3 different positions since the start of the pandemic and unemployed for around 6 months (doing amazing now in a recent role but that is besides the point). Was borderline close to being forced to move back in with my parents. I never got a story written up for me about that. I feel sympathy for many of those folks, but why should…
Nobody was talking about your personal struggle so now nobody should be allowed to talk about anyone else's? I'll never understand that weird crab bucket mentality. You somehow manage to start from "These things have happened quietly in the background all the time in the industry" and instead of ending up at "I'm so glad people are talking about this more because I've been through it and it sucks and we should find some way to make these horrible things happen less often!" you instead opt for "Who cares about this issue! Things sucked for me once and nobody said anything about it so now it's annoying when the media calls attention to anyone else who is struggling!"
That's just weird.
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I'd say it's good we have so much press for this case, maybe he got attention you had not but in my opinion it's good for community if cases like this get highlighted, even if it's not my case...
What about the case that happened so many times to contractors and employees like him in the past that didn't get coverage at lesser known companies? Why are so many people pretending to care now?
Why do you defend megacorps while you've been victim of the exact same shitty behaviour in the past ? Stockholm syndrome ?
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Are you trying to make a distinction without a difference? Nope, hiring for a role you expect to cut at the same time is not the decent or even sane thing to do.
I think people who made decision to hire him and people who made layoffs are different people.
I don't understand. That's unfortunately how it is, sadly enough. Should they have fired another person instead just because of location? I believe they should have not given the GO at all to the hiring manager, but hey... these CEOs nowadays like to take full responsibility accountability blabla-ility for their actions :) Some years ago I worked at a company that had to fire 3 people. They picked one of the guys tha…
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I have been laid off, or close to being laid off in that I had to leave, something like 3 different positions since the start of the pandemic and unemployed for around 6 months (doing amazing now in a recent role but that is besides the point). Was borderline close to being forced to move back in with my parents. I never got a story written up for me about that. I feel sympathy for many of those folks, but why should…
> Was borderline close to being forced to move back in with my parents. I never got a story written up for me about that. Nobody was talking about your personal struggle so now nobody should be allowed to talk about anyone else's? I'll never understand that weird crab bucket mentality. You somehow manage to start from "These things have happened quietly in the background all the time in the industry" and instead of e…
So he gets 4 months of pay, his signing bonus, and all if his shares vest immediately.
The kind of issue that requires large layoff rounds is not something that just materializes overnight, out of the blue.
So why does their management - which should be able to read the writing on the wall, since that's part of their job - not issue a strict hiring freeze (in addition to other measures taken to try and avoid/reduce the impeding layoffs).
Why do they go from hiring to firing in the blink of an eye?
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What about the case that happened so many times to contractors and employees like him in the past that didn't get coverage at lesser known companies? Why are so many people pretending to care now?
People put up with slavery and working 14 hours per day in the mine for a while, why did they suddenly start complain ? Why do you defend megacorps while you've been victim of the exact same shitty behaviour in the past ? Stockholm syndrome ?
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He uprooted his life, moved across the globe, then got laid off and is likely facing a prospect of having to leave Canada (not familiar with work visa types there). This sucks, and the fact "it was bound to happen" (which is incorrect, it's not a law of nature) does not absolve Meta.
Having empathy has nothing to do with recognising that lay-offs happen and that the fact that someone had just relocated is not a good reason to protect them from lay-offs. There is no wrong that needs 'absolving' here. What the employer can be judged on in such situation is how they handle it and, indeed, how empathic and helpful their are, but that's a different issue.