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Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by deckiedan »

NickRandom wrote: post #270
Liquix wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all commercial software is the devil, but money is the root of all evil. Rember Big G's old slogan before they were beholden to shareholders? Given Plex already employs multiple dark patterns in an attempt to obtain your email address, it's hard to imagine they wouldn't slide down the same slippery slope if they got bigger.

As a side note - the original quote isn't in fact 'money is the root of all evil' rather the quote says 'it is the lack of money that is the root of all evil'. A subtle difference I'll grant you but one that makes a huge difference to understanding and empathy imo. [Edit to Expand] The original Hebrew text says it is the 'desire to possess money' that has somehow become mistranslated into 'love of money' rather than…

I think we must be thinking of different things - the quote from Timothy is originally Greek, not Hebrew: "ῥίζα γὰρ πάντων τῶν κακῶν ἐστιν ἡ φιλαργυρία..."

"Root for all the evil is the love-of-money..." Word for word (ish).

The greater context being seeking contentment with your current lot in life, and focusing on becoming good, not rich

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by kiwicopple »

r-bar wrote: post #179
ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #76

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Yup and that is my problem with startups like supabase too. I have just started using pocketbase for that reason.

How does supabase not qualify as open source? Their stack is primarily comprised of other independent open source projects. The one component that isn't is their "realtime" server that serves updates from postgres' WAL over websockets, but that is open sourced[0] under Apache 2.0. From my understanding the primary part that has not been open sourced is their database browser / web UI. There are plenty of alternative…

> From my understanding the primary part that has not been open sourced is their database browser / web UI.

FYI, this is also open source: https://github.com/supabase/supabase/tree/master/studio

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by colordrops »

dmitriid wrote: post #310
colordrops wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a non sequitur. I was talking about financial constraints of the company, not the user. I'd have no problem paying for a piece of critical software if they contractually guaranteed that they wouldn't break the functionality and/or litter it with ads, or at least make it open source if they do. It has nothing to do with my personal financial constraints. That's a misinterpretation on your part.

"Financial constraints" of a company, any company, are such that: - development costs money - workplaces cost money - people want to eat You can pay for Plex with money (Plex Pass). And while I sort of dislike them pushing their own content and monetization, it can be easily switched off in settings.

Apparently a free model works perfectly well. I am using Jellyfin happily. Why should I use Plex when Jellyfin works without all the cruft? The developers working on Jellyfin are doing perfectly fine in their endeavors. Is your suggestion that a project is deserving of more use if it is paid for rather than free? Are free projects poisoning the well for all of us trying to make money off of software? Not sure what point you are trying to make.

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by colordrops »

dmitriid wrote: post #308
colordrops wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes Linux and Vim are dead. There are also no other examples of long lived open source projects that are free.

Linux is primarily developed by large corporations. And there are significantly more projects that have stagnated and disappeared than those that survived.

Whether a project is free or not is not the only consideration as to whether I adopt it for my workflow, just a core one.

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by dmitriid »

colordrops wrote: post #313
dmitriid wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Financial constraints" of a company, any company, are such that: - development costs money - workplaces cost money - people want to eat You can pay for Plex with money (Plex Pass). And while I sort of dislike them pushing their own content and monetization, it can be easily switched off in settings.

Apparently a free model works perfectly well. I am using Jellyfin happily. Why should I use Plex when Jellyfin works without all the cruft? The developers working on Jellyfin are doing perfectly fine in their endeavors. Is your suggestion that a project is deserving of more use if it is paid for rather than free? Are free projects poisoning the well for all of us trying to make money off of software? Not sure what po…

> The developers working on Jellyfin are doing perfectly fine in their endeavors.

As long as they have something to keep them above poverty line: https://staltz.com/software-below-the-poverty-line.html (among other articles, the question of how free open source isn't sustainable is discussed often)

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by SeriousM »

kennend3 wrote: post #218
SeriousM wrote: post #157

I love open source and free stuff, but I also understand that there is nothing for free. This thread is packed with people wanting a free service, better open source for their (hopefully legal acquired) media. The code of the services is written by programmers in (mostly) their free time, the movies are produced by professionals and all you want is it even more cheaper! I wonder if you see that most of this "free stu…

Normally I dont explain my downvotes but i will do this here. > Accept that sometimes ads are ok because it enables this freedom. > I wonder if you see that most of this "free stuff" you and I use every day I've used Linux for decades but never saw a single ad yet this is "free"? I also use a lot of opensource software (Libreoffice, Opera, you get the idea) none of these have ads. As you said the code is written by p…

Open software is important as it enables developer to learn and to value the community around the ecosystem. But please think about not just the software part. You use open software, but where was it stored? Who paid for the infrastructure to reach you home so that you can download it? Where was it built, was it a free service like github actions? Who pays the hundred of people to build the service and who pays the guys who maintains the servers and avoid the DDoS? Look, I don't want to fight nor was it my intention. I wanted to raise the awareness that the free software is not free and the people shouldn't take it granted just because they have the access to the stuff.

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by ViViDboarder »

katbyte wrote: post #257
drexlspivey wrote: post #246

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The major annoyance with that is that you have to explain to your parents/friends how to do that when you give them access otherwise they won’t find your stuff in the ocean of media plex is trying to push at them.

You also have to now trust that they have a secure password and don’t share/get them compromised. I picked Emby for many reasons and one being local accounts I control. Plex pushing you to use their accounts (and then pushing streaming content like this) just wasn’t an option.

I’m not sure I understand. With Emby you still have to trust that they have a secure password and don’t share/get them compromised.

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by ViViDboarder »

jannes wrote: post #188
jghn wrote: post #43

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With Obsidian the thing that made me ok with this was it's all just markdown. I have all my data stored locally in an ubiquitous file format

lol, wasn't it the same with Plex? They just built lots of features around locally stored data.

Exactly. Actually, this blog post is about how it’s not very painful to migrate.

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by ViViDboarder »

drexlspivey wrote: post #248
apexalpha wrote: post #204

These kind of threads always bring mostly negative comments out. So let me just add that I've been using Plex for years to play 4k HDR files for myself and transcoded versions for family and friends. And it works beautifully! No complaints really. There's clients for all devices family has, I have all my files, I can share to friends, etc... Yes, they've also added a new streaming service. I really don't see the issu…

How easily can your family/friends find your stuff when you first give them access? For me it’s always a session where I have to guide them: 1) go to settings -> online media sources and disable everything. 2) click the ‘More’ button at the bottom left then go to these libraries I shared with you and click three dots —> pin for every one of them 3) go to settings —> Quality —> Video quality and select original so you…

It’s not hard for my parents. Just “search for X thing”. It doesn’t really matter what server it’s coming from.

3 & 4 aren’t issues for me. My home upload speeds suck (same for many people), so transcoding to optimize for this is unfortunately necessary. And I don’t even have subtitles downloaded.

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by dbg31415 »

GranPC wrote: post #96
dbg31415 wrote: post #52

I think it's funny everyone is complaining about Plex forcing you to sign in... and the first thing Jellyfin does when you click "see it in action" is force you to sign in. Just saying...

There is a piece of text just below that reads: TO LOG IN: User "demo", empty password

Thanks, honestly I missed this. Kinda funky UX. https://i.imgur.com/GwNED5K.png
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