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Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by tonypham »

chrisweekly wrote: post #246

Obsidian meets all my (personal productivity / PKM / Tools for Thought) needs for this kind of thing for now and the forseeable future. But I'm happy to share my thoughts as someone who's been fairly deep in this space for several years. If you're looking for broad adoption, I'd focus heavily on your interop and portability story: import and export. If it's easy to try with "bring your own extant content", and mitiga…

Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. And yes, you're right. Not being able to import/export is a deal breaker for many people who are really interested in Upbase. We'll need to prioritize that.

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by cseleborg »

tonypham wrote: post #198
jacurtis wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really like the positioning of "a project management suite for solos and small teams". That to me is very appealing because these don't really exist very well. Most project management tools are designed for tons of people. You might be able to make them work for a solo or small team, but they tend to be focused on larger teams, because as mentioned previously, those tend to be the customers spending the most money…

Thanks for your valuable feedback and suggestions. I greatly appreciate it. The one thing I'm concerned about regarding the positioning of "a project management suite for solos and small teams" is that people will question: "If my team grows bigger, does the app still work well for us? Or we have to find another solution?"

I wonder if it's worth worrying about that. There's plenty of freelancers who have no ambition of growing beyond a small team that helps them with the side stuff. Those are the freelancers who don't want to become entrepreneurs. I think they're an interesting enough market to target, and maybe it's OK if those who have dreams of growth don't feel addressed here?

Come to think of it, it may actually be flattering to solos if you recognize them for what they are and don't treat them as not-yet-bigs, if that makes sense.

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by ISL »

cliffwarden wrote: post #52

Very polished, I'm impressed! It seems like everyone ends up recreating a PM or todo tool at some point. It makes me wonder if there could be a world where we have a standard protocol/api and then anyone can bring their own preferred interface?

I think that world is coming. The representation of tasks, dependencies, hierarchies, calendars, and collaborations should be relatively universal.

If there is a popular standard, it will remain popular. The trick is building up enough users that they begin to credibly demand an export to the protocol from big players like Atlassian.

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by SeriousM »

It looks very helpful! I tried other tools before and the best so far was azure devops - but It's not for PMs. Jira is, well... jira (driven by a pm team that doesn't stop adding useless changes). Trello is just to simple for complex things. I guess upbase is exactly what it needs to have a small and good pm management. I will buy a lifetime license. A question thoug: will it support jottacloud for document storage? I don't like google drive because of google and my documents are better stored in norway.

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by tonypham »

vsri wrote: post #267

Recovering marketer from the productivity space here. Your product looks great. Here's my two cents on the "positioning" dicussion happening: the copy on your "Our story" page reads like most other productivity apps out there. Sorry to be so blunt, but it's generic, buzzwordy, and you can swap your company name out for any other company. > That's why we decided to build XXXXX — an all-in-one work management software…

Thanks so much for your invaluable feedback and suggestions. We're tech guys, not marketers, so we find positioning really challenging at the moment. Thanks again for taking the time to give us some GREAT advice.

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by tonypham »

cseleborg wrote: post #272
tonypham wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for your valuable feedback and suggestions. I greatly appreciate it. The one thing I'm concerned about regarding the positioning of "a project management suite for solos and small teams" is that people will question: "If my team grows bigger, does the app still work well for us? Or we have to find another solution?"

I wonder if it's worth worrying about that. There's plenty of freelancers who have no ambition of growing beyond a small team that helps them with the side stuff. Those are the freelancers who don't want to become entrepreneurs. I think they're an interesting enough market to target, and maybe it's OK if those who have dreams of growth don't feel addressed here? Come to think of it, it may actually be flattering to s…

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. It makes a lot of sense. Cheers,

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by swyx »

tonypham wrote: post #276
vsri wrote: post #267

Recovering marketer from the productivity space here. Your product looks great. Here's my two cents on the "positioning" dicussion happening: the copy on your "Our story" page reads like most other productivity apps out there. Sorry to be so blunt, but it's generic, buzzwordy, and you can swap your company name out for any other company. > That's why we decided to build XXXXX — an all-in-one work management software…

Thanks so much for your invaluable feedback and suggestions. We're tech guys, not marketers, so we find positioning really challenging at the moment. Thanks again for taking the time to give us some GREAT advice.

as a founder, you are no longer allowed to say "we're tech guys, not marketers" anymore :) this is now your job. hope you take this great advice and stand out. vsri said it faster and better than i could so will just endorse - please dont say what you think you're supposed to say (leads to generic corporate bs) and say what you really think and give examples to "show, don't tell".
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