When I saw “a project management suite for solos and small teams”, it made me go back and re-consider it under a new perspective. Loved it. I will try it out soon! Good luck!
Thanks. And yes, we don't plan to make it for enterprises.
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#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, we don't have a self-hosted version now.
Every non-FOSS piece of software I've ever deployed slowly degrades over time as founders get greedy or need to recoup costs from investors. Plex is the canonical example. Linux is the canonical counterexample. Sorry, I've been burned enough times by this now that if your software is not FOSS, I'm not deploying it. Your take is not a good look. For an open source alternative, check out Focalboard [0]. Note however it…
Their licensing terms are actually very confusing. I think it's just AGPL, just with extra language tacked on that changes nothing compared to AGPL, but I am really unsure.
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#263Found a typo on your website on the ClickUp competitive page. “Upbase have global chat. ClickUp doesn’t” should be “Upbase has global chat…”
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#264This is really nice. What is the tech stack?
One quick thing i noticed, When i enter new section name and press tab, it is ignored unlike if you press enter, at least in board view. I'd imagine pressing tab after input is typical user behaviour.
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#265I would think about your positioning some. You’re marketing this as having “less complexity” which first of all, isn’t going to appeal to people unless they’ve already used the other tools. But, if they had tried Trello, that’s far from complex, as you say it doesn’t have the features you think are needed, so you are more complex than that. It might be that you’re excellent at UX but that needs some comparative examp…
Related on positioning - all of the above is correct and also unless you’re going hard for the SEO marketing / growth hacker angle I’d maybe reconsider AppSumo as a partner as I very much associate them with the SEO / website takeover modal / scuzzy dark pattern side of things. AppSumo will also bring in a very specific type of customer.
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#266Pretty cool! Congratulations on launching a useful product. As a side conversation, this project and how you described it made me think about why I have such issues with Jira. Jira is actually fucking useless to me . To the business, it's indispensible because it captures the larger tasks that roll up to a larger business objective. However, for each of those larger tasks I have a series of conversations and cross-fu…
Jira is powerful for Dev teams. But I've never heard anyone say that they love using Jira.
For large teams with a complex process, I think the problem is the process itself, not the tool.
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#267Recovering marketer from the productivity space here. Your product looks great. Here's my two cents on the "positioning" dicussion happening: the copy on your "Our story" page reads like most other productivity apps out there. Sorry to be so blunt, but it's generic, buzzwordy, and you can swap your company name out for any other company.
> That's why we decided to build XXXXX — an all-in-one work management software that is simple to learn and easy to use.
What's missing IMHO is this: why did you undertake the drudge of building this? All software creation is motivated by a disatisfaction with what's already out there, so what is the unique point of view that motivated you and... it is hoped, will motivate an audience who shares that point of view. It's not why you are better, cheaper, faster (those are terrible vectors for positioning btw) it's what makes you different.
Are you anal-retentive about detail and hyper-connectedness (JIRA)? Are you psychedelic burners who want to bend a spartan UX into infinite directions (Asana)? Are you cutesy but robust (Trello)? Are you so hyper-opinionated about product management to the point of pedantry (Basecamp)? All these are perfectly cromulent points of view by the way. Marketing positioning is about articulating YOUR point of view, in order to activate the tribe that shares it.
For more on this see Simon Sinek or Chris Lochead. This is my favorite topic in the world. Good luck with your product!
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#268Pretty cool! Congratulations on launching a useful product. As a side conversation, this project and how you described it made me think about why I have such issues with Jira. Jira is actually fucking useless to me . To the business, it's indispensible because it captures the larger tasks that roll up to a larger business objective. However, for each of those larger tasks I have a series of conversations and cross-fu…
This is a huge ask, but would you mind elaborating on your workflow a bit? I really struggled with Jira at work, and I _think_ it was for similar reasons that you described. Are you saying that what is a story at work, and captured within a single “unit” within Jira (I don’t want to use “task”, because that’s a separate thing in Jira) is more broad, but you benefit from having that story broken down further, and that…
Yes. Most organizations I've worked in have an OKR, several epics from that OKR, and several stories from each epic. I tend to work on stories all across those epics, but even broken down stories can never be broken down enough for a single programmer. They're still broad because I'll need to gather requirements from external teams, get a permission here, or dive into a deployment workflow there in order to fully close the story. To the business, a story is the smallest unit of work, but to a human we have many steps in that unit of work.
In a contrived example, if my OKR is to reduce the engineer attention in a given support process by 50%, my epic might be to create a framework for automating tasks via Slack. My stories then might be:
- Spike: Investigate Slack API
- Spike: Investigate programattic interfaces of Jenkins
- Build bot framework
- Build pluggable Jenkins module
- Spike: determine deployment patterns for framework + modules
To a business, these are bite-size as the chunks can be, but to me that may involve tracking threads in channels, doing POCs, and doing a lot of reading. All of those things may fall under a single story.
In a laymen's sense, I need a Jira for my Jiras that the business doesn't need to track because those things largely don't matter to the whole.
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#270Very polished, I'm impressed! It seems like everyone ends up recreating a PM or todo tool at some point. It makes me wonder if there could be a world where we have a standard protocol/api and then anyone can bring their own preferred interface?
For todos you could just use an iCalendar file full of VTODOs [1]. It's a shame that the iCalendar standard is poorly and incompletely implemented even in calendar programs and almost always missing from organizer programs that are basically todo lists. [1] https://icalendar.org/iCalendar-RFC-5545/3-6-2-to-do-compone...
In reality this looks far too basic to actually be a todo spec for a reasonable productivity app.
ie basic functionality I personally look for that I don’t think this would support would include:
* Projects with hierarchies
* Reminder dates
* Tags and contexts
* Multi-Step tasks