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Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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For those, like me who don't know what Mighty is: apparently a web browser that is faster. If that is the selling point, I can see why he quit working on it.

It’s a browser that runs remotely and renders the page remotely, and the user connects to it via Electron app.

That was the selling point.

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Honestly one of the most "But why?" startup ideas I'd ever heard of. I figured pg's hype for it was based in thinking it could someday be targeted for profitable acquisition by Google. But perhaps the current tech industry downturn (plus Stadia's death) made that obviously untenable.

At $30/month, this sounded like something that could only be worthwhile for businesses (though I'm at a loss to imagine what size/industry of company would want this). Did Might have any corporate clients, and if so, how did they navigate the security/privacy compliance issues?

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And that’s good why exactly?

Because each tweet is (possibly) worthy of separate discussion. you have Tweet 1: thesis. t2: supporting evidence A. t3: supporting evidence B. Say you agree with the thesis but think evidence A is weak or otherwise want to discuss it, you don't pollute the discussion on the thesis or supporting evidence B.

99% of twitter threaders are incapable of organizing their threads like this.

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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According to the final tweet in that thread [0] it seems like they are pivoting to a sort of AI generated art based social media platform. I’m curious why they think this has the potential to be a “mass market changing” business since the social media world seems pretty over saturated already [0] https://twitter.com/suhail/status/1591831193598963713

it's not ai generated "social media"

The social aspect was just added as an extra feature

It's more like a Photoshop + canva type project

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Looking at tweets like [1] it seems like their original bet was that server single core performance would dramatically outpace client single core performance. Honestly even if that had happened I still don't think their product would have made sense. The hosting cost and bandwidth/latency requirements would still have killed it. The death of this product is a good sign for computing overall. The more of computing tha…

The product, "compute pixels on powerful machine -> render on thin client", makes much more sense if you don't try to monetize by being a cloud landlord, but you let the users own that powerful machine, make money through hardware, and help them with the software, make money through support, no subscriptions, no rent-seeking. Think at the level of a family: 2 parents, 2 children which means: 4 smartphones, 2÷3 laptop…

I find it deeply unsettling that you'd consider it normal/common to upgrade 4 digit (is that all Apple?) devices every 2 years, or that folks would need so many different form factors in the first place.

Just thinking of the literal mountains of ewaste gives me goosebumps.

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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His new venture: https://playgroundai.com/ Src: https://twitter.com/Suhail/status/1591831193598963713

oh lovely, a big titty generator. how useful.

have you even used it? Why are people here acting more and more like reddit users

Insufferable

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

#157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the heavy lifting of figma happens on your local computer. The delta between doing that in a browser in a native app is only shrinking over time.

I think the delta you're talking about is already gone. Figma is generally considered more performant with its WASM rendering approach than its desktop counterparts. But I don't think the let's say "other deltas" that are now keeping other high-powered apps from becoming web apps are moving at all. You can check my other comments in this thread for more details, but a specific point I'm making with the original comme…

Multiplayer is such a game changer that all editing tools will eventually feature that, so the Figma model is going to win.

Once that is true, you want as many people to collaborate as possible and the browser is the perfect delivery model. Plus you ensure a consistent version across all clients.

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Mighty was like compute arbitrage. The bet was that you could buy compute at cloud prices, resell it to end users, and since this is cheaper than buying consumer compute in the form of workstations, laptops, & tablets, you can pocket the difference. I can't think of a bigger slice of consumer compute than browser workload; so if the scheme doesn't work there, it won't work for anything. My conclusion is that compute…

I interviewed at a very successful startup last year that was basically doing the exact same thing as mighty. But they were selling it as primarily a security advantage (since its effectively an air gap computer) with additional advantages to performance.

The product itself was basically identical to Mighty. However, because it was marketed as a Security tool, they got customers from 9 of the 10 largest world banks, several government agencies, and so forth who bought licenses for every employee due to the security advantages that having an ephemeral server in the cloud provides. The companies enjoyed that there was also a performance benefit and they could skimp on physical workstations as a secondary benefit. But the product was selling licenses by the pallet load because of the security aspect, the performance was just a bonus.

Like I said, the product was effectively identical to what Mighty was doing. I think it was even younger than Mighty and was vastly more successful due to its market positioning.

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Looking at tweets like [1] it seems like their original bet was that server single core performance would dramatically outpace client single core performance. Honestly even if that had happened I still don't think their product would have made sense. The hosting cost and bandwidth/latency requirements would still have killed it. The death of this product is a good sign for computing overall. The more of computing tha…

My primary feeling is that I think technical people drastically overestimate the pain that most "normal" people experience when it comes to browser performance. I see it all the time on HN, e.g. people bitching about the amount of RAM Electron apps take and the like. Who cares? The average user certainly doesn't. If anything, 98% of the time when I experience browser performance issues it's network-latency related, o…

I’m not sure if this is true because there are many many many examples where improving client performance increases conversion in e-commerce sites.

https://web.dev/rakuten/

Re: I decided to stop working on Mighty

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Then yeah there was no point paying $20-$30 a month for a remote browser instance. Sorry what? There are people that even considered this?

I’ve talked to a couple of very loyal Mighty users. If you think about the number of hours a knowledge worker spends in the browser every month, it works out to a pretty small price per hour. It’s similar to people in jobs that require them to live out of their inbox paying (a comparable amount) for Superhuman.

If people applied that logic of “my time is worth more” across everything in their lives - they would be beyond broke.
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