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Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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post #107

Does it have offline support? This is the one thing I'm missing the most about Notion, Miro, Google Calendar, and all of this - offline support. In German trains, I'm offline, on flights, I'm often offline; while traveling, I'm often offline. Offline capabilities are often neglected.

It's rare to see offline support in a web app for a few reasons: LocalStorage is easy to use but too limited at 50Mb. WebSQL got deprecated by FireFox because of secuirty issues years ago ( albeit is still somewhat supported in Chrome ). The FileSystem API looked promising, and then google killed it. IndexedDb is the only option, it's slow on writes, therefore requiring major hacks like absurd-sql to be performant. I…

There was a post a couple weeks ago here about SQLite on WASM that looked very promising [0].

I haven’t tried it yet, but it’s at the top of my list. I want to try and combine it with LiteFS for syncing back up to the server, replication, etc.

Wondering if anyone has tried any of this out yet? There’s the potential for a renaissance of offline-first support for devs.

Edit: I see you mentioned it at the end, my bad

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33374402

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

#113

Does it have offline support? This is the one thing I'm missing the most about Notion, Miro, Google Calendar, and all of this - offline support. In German trains, I'm offline, on flights, I'm often offline; while traveling, I'm often offline. Offline capabilities are often neglected.

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Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Kudos to your effort! I think I will be next in line, over time, with similar post. Everything I’ve tried is just not working (in full). From now great experience, it seems team sizes need definitely different approaches and also it seems people building those tools don’t really have much experience in what works and what doesn’t across orgs and team sizes. To be honest, I strongly believe it’s not possible to build…

Do you see a way to make migration easy?

If the scope of a project changes, or to try various tools with an 'ultra strong vision' with real life data, it would be very helpful if the project data could be easily transferred. Is there a standard that most tools could support?

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

#115
post #73

Ah yes, the glorious Atom character input delay. Still, pretty interesting. I also found that Trello lacks some features and became too bloated over the years. NightReader plugin works well for darkmode, that's a plus. I will give your thing a try

Thanks. The dark mode is in progress now. It will be available in about 2 weeks.

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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I am looking at decent PM tool myself. To the point that I am entertaining the idea to do it myself as a side project. Reason I am not using any of available offering is simple: unless someone puts a gun to my head I never buy software that does not have perpetual license and that can not be hosted on my own premises.

I found some piece of software that I can host and it gets me limping along but not very happy with it.

I am more than willing to pay for license and for upgrades (when I feel I need those) but as much as possible I absolutely refuse to become a hostage of multiple different companies holding my data and extracting monthly rent.

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

#118
post #107

Does it have offline support? This is the one thing I'm missing the most about Notion, Miro, Google Calendar, and all of this - offline support. In German trains, I'm offline, on flights, I'm often offline; while traveling, I'm often offline. Offline capabilities are often neglected.

It's rare to see offline support in a web app for a few reasons: LocalStorage is easy to use but too limited at 50Mb. WebSQL got deprecated by FireFox because of secuirty issues years ago ( albeit is still somewhat supported in Chrome ). The FileSystem API looked promising, and then google killed it. IndexedDb is the only option, it's slow on writes, therefore requiring major hacks like absurd-sql to be performant. I…

You could just wrap the web app in Capacitor for mobile and Electron for desktop, and easily use a SQLite db for unlimited persistence. If someone is interested in offline support, I don’t think it is a dealbreaker to have to download an app. That’s pretty common (eg Netflix, Spotify, hbo, any of the streaming services. The offline support only works in the app, not the web player).

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

#120

Very polished, I'm impressed! It seems like everyone ends up recreating a PM or todo tool at some point. It makes me wonder if there could be a world where we have a standard protocol/api and then anyone can bring their own preferred interface?

That would imply that the data model and semantics are the same, but they usually aren’t.
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