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Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

#91

Small note: on the clickup comparison item 4 you have a grammatical error. "Upbase have..." Rather than "Upbase has..."

I think it’s a US vs British English thing. Company names are plural in one and singular in the other.

This is more about the product though

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

#92

One thing I've always wanted in a tool like this is the ability to map out probabilities, i.e., we do A, then B but after that we do either C,D or E. Each one on these has an associated probability (C: 0.4, D: 0.5, E: 0.1) and an associated estimate (C: 10 +- 5 normal, D: 12 +- 3 uniform, E: 3 +-1 normal). The UI would look like a graph and like ms project it could include resource levelling in order to show bottlene…

Gantt charts can be made in MS Project, Google Sheets,: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gantt_chart Critical path method > Basic techniques: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_path_method#Basic_tec... : > Components: The essential technique for using CPM [8][9] is to construct a model of the project that includes the following: > (1) A list of all activities required to complete the project (typically categorized w…

CPM sounds a lot like a PERT chart, which was invented in the 1950's to help design and build the Polaris nuclear submarines during the Cold War[0]. PERT has been part of Microsoft Project for decades, so it's readily available.

When you really need it (like in the case of tens of thousands of people trying to build and ship a single project at lighting speed) PERT is an extremely powerful and effective project management methodology. If, on the other hand, your "project management division" is you, it's a dangerously seductive time sink that will consume huge amounts of your time building and tuning and gathering and updating data and information, for arbitrarily close to zero direct real benefit and huge net negative benefit. The increase in effectiveness you gain from all that modeling is, in software development projects, negligible and the cost of doing all that modeling is much higher than you think it will be if you've never done it (that's why we don't do waterfall planning in software - it's not that no one's thought of it, it's that it's not effective on projects of any real complexity). As with any approach to planning, PERT works best at a particular scale and project type, and it's typically a quite large scale non-software project.

In my personal opinion, from a software development standpoint, the valuable part of building a PERT chart is doing the work and thinking required to draw a dependency map for your tasks. Drawing all those lines to show what has to be done before what is an incredibly effective tool for helping you flesh out and find dependencies (tasks) you hadn't realized needed to be on your list. Use something like MS Project to build that dependency diagram, then force yourself to stop using Project because it's too seductive at making you feel like the data is giving you power when it's really just consuming your brainpower ineffectively. Use dependency mapping to build a waterfall caliber understanding of what you need to build, then set it aside and use more appropriate agile style approaches to actually work through the project in an optimum manner (which often means not building it in exactly the way you mapped out originally).

[0]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Program_evaluation_and_revie...

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

#93

Does it have offline support? This is the one thing I'm missing the most about Notion, Miro, Google Calendar, and all of this - offline support. In German trains, I'm offline, on flights, I'm often offline; while traveling, I'm often offline. Offline capabilities are often neglected.

Offline support is costly, and we do not have the resources for it yet. For businesses that have a lot of small customers, offline support is challenging.

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

#94

Does it have offline support? This is the one thing I'm missing the most about Notion, Miro, Google Calendar, and all of this - offline support. In German trains, I'm offline, on flights, I'm often offline; while traveling, I'm often offline. Offline capabilities are often neglected.

Have you tried Obsidian with its Kanban plug-in? If so, I’d love to learn what you make of options like that?

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

#96

Does it have offline support? This is the one thing I'm missing the most about Notion, Miro, Google Calendar, and all of this - offline support. In German trains, I'm offline, on flights, I'm often offline; while traveling, I'm often offline. Offline capabilities are often neglected.

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Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

#99

Interested because it has all the basic features I want, and like the lifetime membership thing, but the mobile experience is unusable, and for that reason, I’m out. /sharktank

On mobile, you should download the app, instead of logging in on the web browser, as it's not responsive on the browser yet.

Do you provide a downloadable APK? My phone doesn't have Google Play.

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

#100

Very polished, I'm impressed! It seems like everyone ends up recreating a PM or todo tool at some point. It makes me wonder if there could be a world where we have a standard protocol/api and then anyone can bring their own preferred interface?

For todos you could just use an iCalendar file full of VTODOs [1]. It's a shame that the iCalendar standard is poorly and incompletely implemented even in calendar programs and almost always missing from organizer programs that are basically todo lists.

[1] https://icalendar.org/iCalendar-RFC-5545/3-6-2-to-do-compone...

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