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Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by Deukhoofd »

cogman10 wrote: post #228
apexalpha wrote: post #204

These kind of threads always bring mostly negative comments out. So let me just add that I've been using Plex for years to play 4k HDR files for myself and transcoded versions for family and friends. And it works beautifully! No complaints really. There's clients for all devices family has, I have all my files, I can share to friends, etc... Yes, they've also added a new streaming service. I really don't see the issu…

My pet peeve with plex is they aren't really focusing on the fundamentals. Checkout this issue [1]. A 2 year old request to support a newer codec, AV1, with seemingly no support in sight. Or you've got the fact that plex's transcoding STILL only targets h264 (and gives limited options for bitrate/resolution targets). Most hardware support H.265 (and some newer hardware supports H.266 and AV1). It's a product that was…

> Most hardware support H.265

But software support is lacking, especially in browsers. It's licensing scheme requires developers to pay for a licence to support it in their application, which means that no open source developer is going to get themselves burned on it. It's the singular reason that AV1 was developed.

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by ekianjo »

vachina wrote: post #100
ekianjo wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use a fire TV stick that costs virtually nothing and install the Jellyfin app. You are done.

Yeah these sticks tend to use low powered SoC that chokes on anything higher than 1080p, not to mention missing codecs (Dolby Vision, ATMOS, DTS etc.) and lack of compliance. If you don’t care about any of those or have a TV that don’t do 4K then yeah an Android box and lower fidelity source will do.

You have the 4k version of the stick these days that's still super cheap.

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by ekianjo »

afavour wrote: post #81
ekianjo wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use a fire TV stick that costs virtually nothing and install the Jellyfin app. You are done.

“Buy an entirely new streaming device to use this service” is never ever a good answer. “Buy an ad-infested, Amazon tracking streaming device” also feels entirely antithetical to Jellyfin’s open source mission so there needs to be a better answer than that.

> “Buy an ad-infested, Amazon tracking streaming device”

You don't even need to use the amazon services. Just run the Jellyfin app and that's all you need to keep alive as a service, the rest you can blacklist. There are also ways to root those devices if you want to remove ads and more.

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by cogman10 »

Deukhoofd wrote: post #231
cogman10 wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My pet peeve with plex is they aren't really focusing on the fundamentals. Checkout this issue [1]. A 2 year old request to support a newer codec, AV1, with seemingly no support in sight. Or you've got the fact that plex's transcoding STILL only targets h264 (and gives limited options for bitrate/resolution targets). Most hardware support H.265 (and some newer hardware supports H.266 and AV1). It's a product that was…

> Most hardware support H.265 But software support is lacking, especially in browsers. It's licensing scheme requires developers to pay for a licence to support it in their application, which means that no open source developer is going to get themselves burned on it. It's the singular reason that AV1 was developed.

Funnily, plex supports H.265 (just not transcoding to it).

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by cogman10 »

Semaphor wrote: post #169
endisneigh wrote: post #68

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Both Jellyfin and Plex sync by default automatically but Plex’s default was a few hours or so.

Jellyfin syncs on changes if the media location is local, their regular sync is only there as fallback for network shares.

plex also syncs on FS change (It's never failed for me) but that might be an OS/FS dependent thing. Works great on ZFS + Linux for me.

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by aix1 »

cprecioso wrote: post #185
aix1 wrote: post #160

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You can disable Online Media Sources in the settings and unpin any section you're not interested in from the main menu. I've done this and the only things that I see in my Plex app are locally-stored contents and my TV channels (delivered over IP by my ISP).

How are you watching IPTV on Plex? I thought they only allowed that through an actual tuner (+ a Plex Pass)

I built a thing that integrates with my ISP's TV API and makes it look to Plex like an HDHomeRun tuner. It also generates XMLTV EPG (again, based on my ISP's data) so that I don't have to faff around with third-party EPG providers and with channel matching.

So as far as Plex is concerned, this is an HDHomeRun tuner + XMLTV EPG.

I can also tune directly into any of the TV streams using VLC, in one of three ways:

1. raw MPEG transport stream over UDP multicast

2. same stream over HTTP (via udpxy)

3. my ISP's transcoded HLS stream (lagging by a few seconds and missing certain features)

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by stefanwlb »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #140
Liquix wrote: post #116

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Not all commercial software is the devil, but money is the root of all evil. Rember Big G's old slogan before they were beholden to shareholders? Given Plex already employs multiple dark patterns in an attempt to obtain your email address, it's hard to imagine they wouldn't slide down the same slippery slope if they got bigger.

> Not all commercial software is the devil, but money is the root of all evil. I have a book of Chinese fairy tales which touches on interesting topics like the creation of the world and the beginning of civilization. On that second topic, it says that shortly after human societies came into being, the men started fighting with each other over the women. I imagine the mythology is correct that fighting over women pre…

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Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by p1mrx »

kennend3 wrote: post #213
p1mrx wrote: post #54

When I looked into Jellyfin last year, the main problems were: - Can't connect to people's existing Plex servers. - Can't just invite someone without storing their password on my server. No support for (e.g.) OAuth2.

> - Can't connect to people's existing Plex servers. This is such a weird thing to write. I was shocked to learn that very nice seat from my ex-wife's Lexus wont fit in my Hyundai? Is the opposite true, can the plex client connect to jellyfin? Plex and Jellyfin are competitive, why is there some implied compatibility?

I'm not shocked, I was highlighting that Plex has network effects that make switching more difficult.

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by donatj »

z9znz wrote: post #224

I don't really understand storing lots of common media. Storing your own photos I get, since only you have them. But how many times do you watch the same movies/shows over again? Storing music makes a bit more sense, at least if you had the original media and it was ripped well. But that doesn't take much space at all; nowdays you can easily fit a huge music collection on a small storage device or even just in your p…

For me, it’s a nostalgia thing. I want to be able to watch obscure shows from my youth reliably. Having a funny moment from an old episode of Committed pop into my brain and not being able to show others is a major frustration.

It’s about having reliable access to the media that has been important to me.

Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server

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Post by kennend3 »

dbg31415 wrote: post #52

I think it's funny everyone is complaining about Plex forcing you to sign in... and the first thing Jellyfin does when you click "see it in action" is force you to sign in. Just saying...

This is some sort of joke right?

you are comparing jellyfin's online demo and its requirement to "login" to show you how it works and how it supports multiple accounts vs plex's inability to use the app if you dont login to servers hosted by Plex?

Once i install jellyfin, the only "login" is to my own server, and this is because by default jellyfin supports multiple users unlike Plex which requires a membership to enable this feature.

nonsense.

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