Plex sometimes annoys me, but it looks like Jellyfin doesn’t have the clients I need.
I use Plex on my XBOX, iPad, chrome cast, and computer. Plex has apps for all of those, but it looks like Jellyfin doesn’t have an XBOX player.
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Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server
#112Earlier quoted context omitted.
But there's an entire workflow embedded in the use of Obsidian. It's not "just markdown". That's like saying you could move from vscode to notepad because it's "just text".
It’s not unreasonable to say I could build my own without having to reverse engineer the data format though. I only lose the convenience of Obsidian, not the data I spent years building.
Yeah this. Would it suck? Yes. Would I be as fucked as some other platforms? No.
Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server
#113I suppose I understand the reasons people prefer Jellyfin. But on the small chance of liking a commercial product, Plex is truly dead simple for my parents. They have an AppleTV. They signed up. I share it with them via their registered email address. And they’re in. It was as simple a process as I could hope for.
That being said, do I like everything they’re pushing for? No. But they at least allow users to opt out.
I understand the sentiments here, truly. I just don’t have a compelling reason to change since it does what I want, is simple to set up and use, simple to share, and gets refined all the time.
This is heresy, but not all commercial software is the devil. I suspect RMS would hate me for this.
Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does this require any special set up? I’m asking out of laziness.. my local server has pi hole set up, and the other devices use that for DNS thru Tailscale, but I’m not sure what gets blocked for stuff running on the server. I recall some Tailscale setup involved a flag to disable some DNS thing. Hmmm
In my case not really. There is server side scanning in which plex shares data about your media with their backend. Not sure if there is any setting to disable that. As far as the web client goes ublock origin handles it for me.
Ok. As per my above comment, it should be possible to filter out the analytics/sentry via DNS using pi hole. In theory, you'd just have to set up your Plex machine to use pi hole DNS ad blocking, and ensure that the pi hole domain list includes analytics domains. And Tailscale MagicDNS with the primary DNS server being your Plex/pi hole server, with your other devices configured with Tailscale, should block everything.
The only potential blocker I can see is whether the HDMI streaming device makes HTTP requests, in which case it would need to use the Tailscale proxy, and I'm not sure if that's supported.
Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server
#115> "My media content had been pushed aside into a submenu while the app promotes its own streaming media and premium services instead."
This is my biggest pet-peeve coming from Linux world. In Linux the music players you find bundled with different distros are simple, but they just work.
However since moving to MacOS, I have to either use iTunes or Music, and in Android the default music player and the latest updates of the alt music player I installed the author problem is true; they expect me to use their services and that's front and clear, while my local music is hidden away in a menu button.
This is a fairly ridiculous situation IMHO (well, solitaire in Windows getting ads/online is slightly more, but I'll never go there) since a music player that fulfills my needs is pretty easy: show a list of artists, play either the whole artist or a single album in shuffle mode.
Attempt 1: https://twitter.com/FPresencia/status/1364892370509127681
Attempt 2: https://twitter.com/FPresencia/status/1578720636645826560
Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server
#116I suppose I understand the reasons people prefer Jellyfin. But on the small chance of liking a commercial product, Plex is truly dead simple for my parents. They have an AppleTV. They signed up. I share it with them via their registered email address. And they’re in. It was as simple a process as I could hope for. That being said, do I like everything they’re pushing for? No. But they at least allow users to opt out.…
Not all commercial software is the devil, but money is the root of all evil. Rember Big G's old slogan before they were beholden to shareholders? Given Plex already employs multiple dark patterns in an attempt to obtain your email address, it's hard to imagine they wouldn't slide down the same slippery slope if they got bigger.
Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Also, don't expose windows shares to the internet. Is this a problem? I feel like this reputation is 10 years out of date. Personally I use smbd & I am not afraid for it. I'd like to tell Windows users the dame, provided I trust them to disallow all but logged in users.
Generally speaking unless you are prepared to (at a minimum) 1. Harden the operating system 2. Actively monitor logs, and apply updates upon release 3. Put a Firewall with IDS/IPS between the server and the internet (which most home "routers" do not provide) you should not put anything on the wider internet, instead using something like tailscale (which you mention in another post) to create a secured private network…
That sounds way overblown on multiple levels. "Harden the OS"... why... if you are port forwarding samba? Firewall with IDP? Please. This kind of advice seems designed to intimidate & scare, and it's absurd & cruel to convince people self hosting is so impossible and terrifying. Geeks oversell their conservative paranoia & gate-keeping like this all the te but this naysaying is just posionous!
I've gone through every CVE for Samba & there seemingly is 1 potential problem since 2007 that would possibly potentially be an issue for a basic non-domaim controller smbd fileshare that a random non-user could possibly exploit. If you dont trust your users, there's indeed some CVEs of real threat, but still, like... 4.. https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-102/...
Yes you probably should update fairly regularly, just in case. But more often than not, if you are a couple years behind, it's not a problem. Maybe someday that goes bad. But... so far... being super lax on updates generally hasnt had much impact. Maybe check logs every now and then, but honestly... once you have some confidence, it's fine. This stuff runs fine. It's easy.
Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server
#118Plex seems to regularly add new features which I really have no use for but makes it relatively easy to turn them off if you want. Every month or three when I login to the web interface there's Some New Thing which I need to disable. Recently I needed a 100% offline-capable media player (and while Plex would probably work, it's not 100% reliable) and tried with Kodi. It's a very unfluid experience, requiring multiple…
I really liked the original homebrew xbmc on a modded original xbox (both plex and kodi are forks) I would appreciate a simpler batteries included media center software in that theme.
I remember the Boxee Box and loved mine.. while it lasted. The interface was slick, simple, and had the basics that I needed at the time.
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#119Plex lost their best users by missing the point of self hosting entirely. Nobody wants to deal with third party downtime, even if it is rare and intermittent. I think most products go through phases like this. Plex has some diehards that have stuck around (I think it's just buyers remorse for the Plex pass) but I think they are at a 5th or 6th tier of "customer" at this point, seeing the continuous churn spiral they…
I haven't really encountered any issues besides the downtime that has occured maybe twice since I bought the yearly two years ago. Everything just works and I never really notice those three submenus except when I'm logging into a new device and it takes like ~10 seconds to unpin them. Everything has been basically perfect for me.
> I haven't really encountered any issues besides the downtime that has occured maybe twice since I bought the yearly two years ago.
> I never really notice those three submenus except when I'm logging into a new device and it takes like ~10 seconds to unpin them.
Maybe it's just me, but the way you've written these sentences makes it sound like you have buyers remorse. Doesn't sound like things are "basically perfect."
FWIW, I left Plex two years ago for Jellyfin, and haven't looked back. Never even bought the garbage Plex Pass.
Re: From Plex to Jellyfin Media Server
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Generally speaking unless you are prepared to (at a minimum) 1. Harden the operating system 2. Actively monitor logs, and apply updates upon release 3. Put a Firewall with IDS/IPS between the server and the internet (which most home "routers" do not provide) you should not put anything on the wider internet, instead using something like tailscale (which you mention in another post) to create a secured private network…
That sounds way overblown on multiple levels. "Harden the OS"... why... if you are port forwarding samba? Firewall with IDP? Please. This kind of advice seems designed to intimidate & scare, and it's absurd & cruel to convince people self hosting is so impossible and terrifying. Geeks oversell their conservative paranoia & gate-keeping like this all the te but this naysaying is just posionous! I've gone through every…
One problem with (at least samba) is that the configuration is a PITA and it's easy to do a lot of unsafe things (which probably wouldn't get a CVE because "well you enabled anonymous users, which are often enabled by default by distributions...")
(at least compared to caddy or wireguard...)